yes, that works for sure, however, I think that this is far too expensive, that I do not even want to think about it. Actually with hsqldb such operations are a matter of seconds, not to speak of the flexibility to work with the script file. And not to think of the case, when I have to upgrade databases "in the wild".

however, I still hope, that Derby will support this soon, because I really think this is an extremly important feature, as every database I know supports this.

and I fear, many users will be damn disappointed and frustrated (as I was) when they have some work invested into a schema and then realise this lack of functionality (because actually I could not believe, that any database would not support this).

And it is really a pity, as Derby has great functionality and then is (at least for me) practically not usable by this reason.


thanks anyway



Alex

Paul J DeCoursey wrote:
Alexander Schatten wrote:
thank you for your hints, I was doing something similar with huge effort, but after this experience, I invested some hours and switched back to hsqldb, this is---sorry to say---by far more convenient for development purpose. similar restructuring with hsqldb took me seconds. It is really impossible to develop with a database, where restructuring is not feasible, and at the moment I have to say, it is even worse to roll out with a database under such conditions.

I think I wait for the next release and will then probably change back to Derby. the hsqldb concept with the script file is just perfect for development issues.

I really hope for the next release of Derby...

Maybe I'm in the minority but I've never had issues. While in development I never do alter tables, I drop the entire database and rebuild the entire thing including test data using scripts. It's far easier and I can ensure that it will react as if a new install each time. I also put a lot into testing and planning to be sure that my final results will not need altering after deployment. And when it has come up where I needed to alter something after deployment I build a new database and copy data into it. That isn't ideal, but it's clean.

Paul


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