Fabian Merki wrote:
hi kristian
the command finished/aborted after about 80 minutes with the following message: Log operation null encounters error writing itself out to the log stream, this could be caused by an errant log operation or internal log buffer full due to excessively large log operation. SQLSTATE: XJ001: Java exception: ': java.io.IOException'.

Hi Fabian,

Hmm, even though your problems occur due to some "fishy" application code, it does not seem right that Derby fails in such a way.

Is there any way you can easily reproduce the behavior?
I don't know enough about these things to reckon what the reasons might be, but if you could reproduce it and log a Jira there's a chance someone will have a look at it.

If it's hard to create a standalone repro, maybe you could turn on statement logging in Derby or enable JDBC tracing in your framework if possible.


Sorry I can't help more,
--
Kristian


cheers
fabian

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Fabian Merki <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    *To:* Derby Discussion <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:23 PM
    *Subject:* Re: backup size exploded

    hi kristian
> 1. How is the data inserted into your database?
    i'm using hibernate (autocommit off). i think it tried and failed to
    insert the same row over and over again (because of my program
    logic) but the string in one column was too long to be inserted (or
    so)... could this cause this issue?
    Caused by: org.apache.derby.client.am.BatchUpdateException:
    Non-atomic batch failure.  The batch was submitted, but at least one
    exception occurred on an individual member of the batch. Use
    getNextException() to retrieve the exceptions for specific batched
    elements.
    unfortunately hibernate doesn't use getNextException...
    but i've just recongized that i do session.beginTransaction() and
    since it fails (and my code is broken) i only do a session.close()
    but i don't do a rollback - could this be the reason?

     > 2. Do you have multiple connections inserting the data cuncurrently?
    yes, but 99.9% it's only one connection with was inserting into one
    db. there are multiple dbs with each multiple connections.

     > 3. Have you tried compressing the table(s)?
    no because i was scared because of the size (>2gb one table)...
    i started the database within another parent directory / network
    server and run the following command:
CALL SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_INPLACE_COMPRESS_TABLE('APP', 'WEBREQUEST', 1,
    1, 1);
    but it did not complete yet (> 30min) - i'll keep running it over
    night - we'll see *smile*

     > 4. Have you specified any tuning-properties for the
    storage-layer/-engine?
    i'm using the default settings - no config change.
> Which operating system are you using?
    Linux 2.6.16.21-0.25-xen  x86_64
thanks! fabian
        Fabian Merki wrote:
         > hi all
> > i encountered a very strange problem.
         > today the backup of a small db was 7.4 gb and it filled up my
        disk.
> > running "du -s" results in: > > 105194 backup/2007-10-14 03-09-31/
         > 105214  backup/2007-10-15 03-10-23/
         > 105250  backup/2007-10-16 03-09-40/
         > 105318  backup/2007-10-17 03-09-29/
         > 202713  backup/2007-10-18 03-09-52/
         > 370164  backup/2007-10-19 03-10-36/
         > deleted the other backups in the meantime (space problems!)
         > if there were that many rows/data in my db i would not write
        this mail.
         > the strangest thing of all is that count(*) on one of the
        problematic
         > tables is 141'655 while this table has 571'211 pages while
         > estimspacesaving is 0 (numfreepages=0, numfilledpages=1).
         > the row-layout is 2 x bigint + 2 x 255varchar - this is much
        less than 1 kb
         > the pagesize is 4kb - more than one row should fit in one page
> > i run CALL SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_BACKUP_DATABASE(...) every day. > > can anyone explain why the db started to grow so quickly in
        size? why
         > would the numallocpages be more than count(*) - i never
        delete rows in
         > this table!?!?

        Hello Fabian,

        I don't have an answer to your question, but I have a few
        questions for
        you :)

        1. How is the data inserted into your database?
        2. Do you have multiple connections inserting the data cuncurrently?
        3. Have you tried compressing the table(s)?
        4. Have you specified any tuning-properties for the
        storage-layer/-engine?

        These are just a few questions to help us understand what's
        going on.
        Hopefully someone will be able to give you a solution to your
        problem.
        It would be interesting to see what happens if you try to
        compress the
        tables.

> > i'm using db-derby-10.2.2.0-bin and jdk1.5.0_09 (ok, i should
        update
         > sometimes...)

        Which operating system are you using?

        regards,
-- Kristian

> > thanks for any help
         > fabian

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