On 01.06.2012 21:50, Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
Hello, David, thanks for your quick response.

Usually it's one thread "per" in-memory table. Tables can be updated at random times and 
their random rows may be updated, some rows deleted or new rows inserted. In some other 
configuration, to avoid deletions, updates and inserts, the in-memory table is truncated and then 
all the records (the new "state" of the source data) are inserted into it.

For clarity, are you referring to using Derby's memory subprotocol when talking about in-memory tables? As an example, that would be 'jdbc:derby:memory:mydb;create=true', as opposed to the on-disk version that would be 'jdbc:derby:mydb;create=true'. In terms of locking there is nothing special about in-memory database in Derby, except for the likely event that some operations may be faster in-memory than on-disk (which could affect timing, but many other things can do that too).

Two common pieces of advice when it comes to locking is to reduce the duration of the locks, and to reduce the scope/granularity of the locks. There may also be application specific considerations to take, like acceptable isolation levels, access patterns and schema design.

In general your application should be prepared to handle lock timeouts, whereas deadlocks indicate that the access/lock patterns of your application need to be improved.


--
Kristian


The thread which runs SQL against all those tables frequently may do a scan of 
the whole table.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Zanter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Derby Discussion
Subject: Re: Derby Locks - best practices

Do mean the scenario of:
     Multiple threads are updating the exact same rows

or
     Multiple threads doing updates to different rows, but due to 
queries/indexes/etc are causing contention between each other.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pavel Bortnovskiy<[email protected]>  
wrote:
Hello, all:



Derby is used in my application in the in-memory only mode. For a long
time Derby's lock logic caused no worries, but recently some use cases
failed with lock timeouts. Thus I'm looking for guidance on best
practices for handling locks in Derby. A use-case which may cause
timeouts to obtain a
lock: one thread is executing an SQL statement which accesses two (or
more) in-memory tables. Those two tables are being modified by  other
threads at random times. So, situations in which the SQL is executed
for a long time and the other threads are frequently updating the
tables may cause lock timeouts.



Besides best practices to avoid timeouts and deadlocks, I would like
to ask the following questions:

1)      What's the default length of lock timeouts?

2)      Does my app need another layer of synchronization
mechanism/locks to avoid attempts to update in-memory tables or execute SQLs 
against them?

3)      Can my application utilize Derby's locks through some API - to
query their state or to use them in making a decision of whether to
batch updates or to execute them, to wait or execute the SQLs?



Your help would be greatly appreciated,



Pavel.

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