> I am worried about this tendency, from both Fedora and Ubuntu, of 
> dumbing-down the desktop spins: if Windows does not offer any useful 
> application out-of-the-box,our key to success is NOT to lower to the 
> same level and also offer nothing useful as the OOTB experience.

Out of the box, the Desktop spin offers:

- a web browser
- a mail/calendar/etc client
- a VoIP/video chat program
- a media/movie player
- a music library player
- a word processor
- a document viewer
- a photo viewr with simple editing

Especially with the move to many web-based services and applications,
I find that a far cry from 'does not offer any useful application', even
if one particular one you may prefer isn't on there.

Bill
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