I'll contact the them to see if i can. On 22 April 2010 21:19, Nelson Marques <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Good stuff. > Could we manage to get a Plymouth themes area ? :) > > nelson > > On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:03 +0300, Tareq Al Jurf wrote: > > Hi Nelson > > I think that you should see this fedora-art.org > > I sent opendesktop.org an email, and they've done it. > > > > Regards > > > > On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I thought over in many things and I do recognize some > > problems that > > might be related to people not enrolling with communities like > > our. I > > would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a > > decent > > document, I'd rather take this approach first). > > > > Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be > > committed > > to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the > > upcoming > > months after the release there's too much to do still. So > > maybe the best > > time is to trigger this around July. At that time people > > should be > > preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which > > is probably > > the main audience for this). > > I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and > > specially by > > whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right > > after such is > > accomplished. > > > > What I would like to do: > > > > Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a > > cooperation > > protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick > > examples: > > > > * opendesktop.org (gnome-look.org, kde-look.org, etc); > > * deviantart.com > > * gnome.org and kde.org (?? this people are most likely > > buried with > > work already) > > * suggestions from current artists > > > > This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign > > in which > > artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As > > things are > > not going to be much random, this is what I though that is > > going to be > > needed: > > > > #1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior. > > #2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to > > comply > > (this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as > > it's their > > field of action/expertise). > > #3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this > > shouldnt be too > > complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this). > > #4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure > > something I have > > no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here > > who have > > done similiar things in the past, so selecting and > > highlighting such > > would be great). > > #5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run > > this as > > Fedora or eventually also invite people from other > > communities, such as > > GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by > > Fedora and > > distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone > > from their > > project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds > > between us > > and them. > > #6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We > > should be > > able to reach everyone. > > #7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta > > Themes, KDE > > themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?). > > #8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that > > _current_ > > artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As > > artists they > > might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure > > talk the > > same language as other artists and know how to attract people > > in a more > > effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard > > non-artist > > Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running > > such project > > is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at). > > > > Some doubts: > > > > - If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or > > not > > community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some > > extra stuff > > that we get from such a campaign ? > > > > - The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll > > through > > Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed > > with a > > friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly > > software, such > > as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff. > > Should we > > apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss > > in the > > submitted artwork? > > > > - I would like submitters to place their artwork in place > > where FAS > > registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their > > work, they > > will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is > > done, with a > > single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling > > list, their > > approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done. > > This could > > be explored. > > > > - Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork > > will be for > > sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can > > probably > > forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list > > such as > > design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them > > directly in > > contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This > > should > > probably make their possible integration in the future much > > easier, as > > they will start having friendly voices around. > > > > - Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24 > > million > > computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass > > distribution > > channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for > > them to > > participate (if we are friendly with rules). > > > > - Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face > > this, but > > this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does > > require some > > work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I > > can nag > > my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my > > free > > time. > > > > - Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done, > > so some > > feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can > > see how we > > can help each other. Even between the involved > > departments/teams of > > Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should > > be a must. > > > > - Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for > > everyone > > involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such > > initiative... Fedora > > Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for > > their > > work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number > > and gather > > more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams. > > That should > > be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or > > artwork on the > > release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way. > > Break the Ice > > between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side... > > This is > > will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors, > > Marketing, > > Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA, > > packaging, etc. I > > would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already > > a great > > win and would reward us all. > > > > For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if > > there is > > interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more > > in-depth > > document and more objective. > > > > I believe we can try to do something different here and try > > to enlarge > > our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community > > contributions. > > > > All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify > > them and work > > them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora > > 14 theme > > selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast > > and > > aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected. > > > > I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their > > own ideas > > on how to make better, their concerns, their critics... > > everything... > > only in possession of such information we can have a strong > > basis to > > work out soemthing like this. > > > > From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week > > for such > > project and report to Marketing every single week about what > > has been > > achieved. > > > > > > > > Nelson. > > > > -- > > Nelson Marques > > Evil Clown > > > > (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm<http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm> > ) > > > > -- > > marketing mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > > > > > > -- > > Tareq Al Jurf > > Fedora Ambassador > > Riyadh, Saudi Arabia > > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > design-team mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > -- > Nelson Marques > Evil Clown > (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm<http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm> > ) > > -- > marketing mailing list > [email protected] > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -- Tareq Al Jurf Fedora Ambassador Riyadh, Saudi Arabia [email protected]
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