Hey br gnokii,
You included quite a few problem statements and even more solution
statements. I hope I'm getting to the core problems you're describing.
Apologies if I missed the mark.
It sounds to me, if I'm hearing you correctly, that a first challenge is
getting more voters. A second problem is getting higher quality
submissions. I don't think changes to the voting software will
influence either of those things.
I like your final statement, that you want to build a community around
the wallpapers. Some of your solutions below seem counter-productive to
encouraging a flourishing community, particularly as it is so relatively
young.
I can get behind ideas like:
- increase number of voters
- increase visibility of the contest
- provide more mentoring for submitters
As someone who voted (but didn't submit) this time I don't think
nuancier was a problem for me at all in terms of finding 16 high quality
images to vote for.
Kirk
On 2014-09-07, 8:44 AM, S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
We have done our second voting in Nuancier and managed the first time
te whole process in it.
The results and statistics are accessible here:
Fedora 20: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/stats/1/
Fedora 21: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/stats/2/
As you can see the number of voters didnt increase that high, 128 on
F20 and 116 on F21. With this low number of voters, its easily that
submissions with low quality get enough votes to be amongst the winners.
For bettering that there are several options
* increase the number of voters, thats hard to influence at all
* make a point voting system first choice gets highest available
points, but that is harder to hack
* enforce a number of votes as minimum, we didnt want that before as
it can have a negative influence that some choose an wallpaper they
really like and fill up the rest with random choices.
* make a point system and give a group of people higher points to
award, like design-team and/or sysamin-nuancier
So for me last option is the possible solution for it any other
solutions or opinions?
I also have a feeling that not only the number of submissions get
decreased as also the quality of the submissions decreased. I also had
the opinion of some submitters of high quality pictures, the will not
contribute as they felt insulted to end up in the lowest ranks against
submissions with lower quality who was ranked much higher
* increase the visibility of the contest, havent written to project
and announce lists for F21 to get more submissions again
* bring in a mentoring system for submissions
I feel the second option would change the situation for an better
quality dramatically, but for it Nuancier have to change a little bit
more.
* an submitter can submit more but can have with the help of the
mentors choose the right submissions for an final submission (lesser
options to vote on with higher quality, would change also the voting
problem)
* we sooner or later come to the "ubuntu-problem" the had so many
submissions that they had to allow only one submission a user, we
would avoid getting to such an solution if submitter had any chance to
preselect there submission with the help of mentors
What I have in mind with this idea is to build a community around the
supplemental wallpaper, we could submitters who have submitted over a
time high quality content the status of mentoring others and keep in
this way the quality high as well the interest in the supplemental
wallpapers.
are there opinions or other ideas to that?
br gnokii
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