On the topic of this, I had actually proposed an entire redesign of the installer system in a much earlier post, but in discussions on IRC I was informed that making alternate UI's for Windows Installer systems is a pretty difficult task.
~Shawn On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Cesare Leonardi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm just a user too, that follows the LibreOffice project with many hopes > and that try to contribute with bug filing and comments. > > > On 11/03/2011 16:17, Jared Meidal wrote: > >> When the first step to installing LibreOffice is the prompt to ask >> where to extract the install folder immediate confusion comes to many >> elementary PC users. I think this is primarily because this step is >> unusual, most Windows-based apps do not contain this step, or hide it >> from the user. I suggest eliminating this step. Either the >> installer file is packaged differently to accomplish this, or it >> automatically extracts the MSI, etc. into a "temp" folder in the >> background, which is afterwards deleted upon a successful >> installation. >> > > I completely agree with you. > I've always found strange using the desktop as temporary folder and also > found strange that the user has to manually delete later this folder. > I concur that this forlder should go to %temp% and that has to be deleted > after the setup completes (even with error). > > I'm unsure if can be useful to make a permanent copy of this folder under > the LibreOffice folder in %programfiles%, so that the user can modify his > setup without having to find the original installer. > Tipical use case is, for example, to add Impress if you haven't installed > it in the first place, or to modify file associations, or to restore the > program if something got screwed up. > It wastes disk space but can be useful in many cases. > > > The second issue is that the install folder "C:\Program >> Files\LibreOffice 3" contains the version number. This is much >> better than the Start Menu\Programs folder "LibreOffice 3.3" which >> contains the point version also. I suggest removing both. Simply >> "LibreOffice" is enough, and is a much more common standard and >> expectation for Windows users. >> > > Like Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, for example. > It's something i do on every setup: i change the folder name deleting the > version. It makes upgrades easier (from a user point of view). > For example, when you upgrade from 2.4 to 3.x (as i'm doing now at work), > many users ends up with a broken quicklaunch program in their startup > folder: if you use version number in folder, quicklaunch is not able to find > itself anymore after upgrade and you have to solve the problem manually. > > Another thing that i've always found strange in OpenOffice/LibreOffice > Windows configuration is that, under the Start Menu, LibreOffice programs > are showed with their real name (LibreOffice Writer, LibreOffice Calc, etc), > while if you right-click on the systray icon you can see the localized > document type (i translate from italian: Text document, Spreadsheet, > Presentation). > My workmate believe this is a bug, me just an incoherence. > > In my opinion the better solution would be to render identical both > strings, with something like this: > Writer (Text documents) > Calc (Spreadsheet) > Impress (Presentations) > ... > > Or reversed: > Text documents (Writer) > Spreadsheet (Calc) > ... > > All the string should be localized, like the ones in the quicklaunch. > And without the "LibreOffice" prefix (as "LibreOffice Writer"), since the > word LibreOffice it is already in the folder name. > This has the good effect of teaching the corrispondence between the name of > the application and what it does. Many employees keeps on calling Excel the > spreadsheet and Word the word processor and ignoring what are Calc and > Writer... ;-) > > Hope to help. > > Cesare. > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
