Of course, you're right, if I understand you, but I did not say that LO
should not look great for linux, on the contrary. It seems that there have
been attempts to redesign the icons, to be modern and..., but I can only see
a bunch of different pictograms whose design not belong to any of these
systems philosophy. Access to the tools is a major problem. I'm interested
in just who decides about all of this and how I contribute, Does it make
sense to talk about this, or continue business as usual :)

On 19 June 2011 19:10, RGB ES <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2011/6/19 Budislav Stepanov <[email protected]>:
> > Of course it looks like MSO, LO now looks like MSO 2003:). Everyone
> should
> > take part in this, I just gave a suggestion.
> > @ Ricardo - I do not understand what is so special in the current
> interface
> > and so well that it should not be changed, is it not better to be easily
> > manipulated with the tools,I read somewhere that people in the company
> can
> > not find their way in, Is not it better to simplify it. Who is against
> it?
> > we all, as designers need to design how everything should look like, not
> > to ask developers what is better, that all of the tools in one place r
> that
> > the user loses until you find what they need . What is the aim of
> developing
> > this program? . No one said that he would deviate from KDE, but it would
> be
> > much easier to use all the features of the program. After all let's ask
> many
> > people who use the LO what is better, maybe they make a suggestion? LO
> > should be used with enthusiasm, not because we must, because it is free.
> > Without ideas there is nothing. Just my opinion.
>
> I'm not talking about the current interface that for sure needs a
> redesign, but about how the interface integrates with the desktop
> environment used.
> On your mock-up you wrote that LibO should have an unique look
> independently of the OS and I do not agree with that, that's all ;)
> Which tools are available and where (dockers, side toolbars, etc.),
> and the way to access all the others must be a desktop independent
> trademark for LibO, that's right: each app is unique in many senses
> and so they are their tools. But how menus and buttons are
> highlighted, the colour scheme, even icon theme (the save, open,
> new... buttons, for example) should be, if possible, in harmony with
> the rest of the system so users can feel "at home" with the app and,
> first of all, do not get that second of confusion when changing from
> LibO to another apps or vice versa.
> That's why I mentioned the file picker. Right now, LibO's own file
> picker is bad (to be nice...), but even if it were good a user that
> needs to save a file to a new location needs also to switch his/her
> mind from what they are used to use to whatever LibO offers *every
> time*, and that is counter-productive.
> I mentioned KDE just as an example: what I'd said holds, I think, for
> gnome, xfce, mac (acqua?)...
> LibO must be an unique product, granted, but it should not look as an
> intruder on the desktop session.
> Cheers
> Ricardo
>
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