Marc,

I would be happy to do the screenshots for any OS X version of LibreOffice. My 
only concern is somewhat in line with Larry's, actually. From what I hear, most 
OS X users really do expect applications to fall into line with Apple's HIG, 
which is why many Java programs aren't that popular on the OS X platform-- they 
stick out like a sore thumb.

Does that mean we have to follow the default Aqua color scheme? I don't think 
so-- there are several very popular programs that certainly don't adopt the 
graphite/gray. Microsoft Office breaks the guidelines and general conventions 
and still prevails (though admittedly this may be because of its market share 
overall).

Although I don't think users would mind different colors, I would recommend at 
least leaving the option to switch to "default" colors and icons, if only 
because some users really do prefer a consistent theme overall. The recent 
popularity of the Elementary Project in the Linux world seems to be a 
demonstration of this, to say nothing of the longstanding criticism leveled at 
programs that override GTK+ themes to no real advantage. Also keep in mind that 
OpenOffice.org had an entire project devoted to "Mac-ifying" it, which was the 
NeoOffice project.

We may gain more users by not being bombastically different, is all that I'm 
saying.

Sincerely, 
-- 
Christopher Lee
Executive Director
Champion Debate


On Thursday, July 7, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

> Hi Christopher:
> 
> Le 2011-07-06 23:51, Christopher Lee a écrit :
> > Marc,
> > 
> > What Larry's referring to overall is Apple's Human Interface Guidelines (
> > http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGIntro/XHIGIntro.html),
> > which basically define what's "expected" from Apple programs. Many programs
> > will conform to these guidelines, which impose general color schemes,
> > scrollbars, and conventions more or less analogously to what GTK does for
> > Linux (there's a shell script that makes Ubuntu use the Aqua theme-- it well
> > shows how Aqua and GTK function in similar ways with regards to interface
> > design). It shouldn't be deadly difficult to find how the others use these
> > sets, though I don't think it requires that much.
> > 
> > Though Larry, plenty of people use MSO for Mac, which definitively does
> > break the HIG.
> 
> Ahh, thanks for the information. I know that there has been talk of 
> having a separate Mac set of screenshots.
> 
> IMHO, if we can make LibreOffice colours show on desktops then it will 
> be great marketing feat. I would imagine that if the LibreOffice green 
> sticks out in a sea of "blue or graphite", then people will notice it. I 
> don't think people will complain of the LibreOffice software quality 
> because it displays different colours. I guess we would then be 
> considered the "nasty rebels" on the Mac platform ... ironic when you 
> consider the Mac has TV commercials depicting itself as a rebel to 
> MSWindows. :-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
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