Hi Astron, 2012/4/12 Stefan Knorr (Astron) <[email protected]>
> Hi Mirek, > > On 12 April 2012 22:49, Mirek M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just like last week, I'm not sure whether I'll be able to attend this > chat, > > and I hope one of you will take over as the moderator if there's need to. > > Alex, Astron, you've been active in the chats so far as well as on the > > mailing list, which makes you good candidates. > > Hope you can make it. I should be able to be there. great > > > To get B done, we need to contact some of the creators, as they can best > > formulate what the original goal of the whiteboard was. Christoph Noack > has > > authored "DocumentCheck", "Calc Range Names", "Progress Indicators", and > > "Find bar". > > I would try to take care at least of Range Names. (Of course, only if > Christoph doesn't want to jump in here.) > ok > > > I don't remember seeing Daud, Michelr, or S.Gecko anywhere on the mailing > > Rafael Daud was at the chat last week – without saying anything. > Oh, ok. > Michel ... haven't heard anything either. S. Gecko's whiteboard has > been hijacked by Andrew anyway. So, I guess, Andrew should deal with > either radically cleaning it up or shelving it. We need to determine the scope of the thing. Otherwise, the conversion went well. > > > AFAIK, Paulo José is no longer active, so we also need to tweak "Writer > > Status Bar Remaking". > > Mirek, I guess it would be the best if you could pick anything that's > useful for a Hide the Status Bar whitebooard (as proposed by Kendy) > and shelve everything you can't use use under Whiteboards/Archive. As I understand it, under Kendy's proposal, the status bar would still be available under "View" but just hidden by default. Therefore, a reordering of the status bar still makes sense as a separate idea, but just shouldn't be our top priority. Or do we want to dispense with the current status bar entirely? Perhaps replace it with something more contextual, like Chrome and Firefox have done? > > > Astron, on your "PropertiesButtonLayout" page, the summary should only > > state the goal of your whiteboard, such as "Improve dialog usability". It > > should be a single design-oriented goal and it shouldn't suggest the > > solution (that's what the Proposal section is for). > > Right. I'll reword that. > > > "Current state" should > > be at the top of Relevant art. > > Okay, yes. > I would make a case for it being at the top (it is kinda important to > know the status quo before reading through proposals), but it's late > already. It's not at the top because it serves as inspiration for the new design. "Relevant art" is the section every designer should visit before contributing his design. If the revision is an update of a UI element in LibreOffice, it is implied that all its current features are preserved (unless the designer determines they belong elsewhere in the UI or if a feature is counterproductive). If this isn't apparent, put "preserve current feature" or "preserve ..." (where ... is a list of features to preserve) under "Scope". > > > We also need to figure out how we're going to shape our HIG. > > I think we should start from some general ideas like [1] and then work > through the details. Note, how about any HIG starts with some sort of > ideological framework. At least we should not start from "how are we > going to work with toolbars?"... IMHO. > I agree. (I put the toolbar whiteboard in there since it was an old whiteboard and belonged under HIG.) > > Good night. > Astron. > > > [1] http://www.useit.com/papers/heuristic/heuristic_list.html > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
