You answer on the ML without reference to the GDoc proposal where most of the 
issues should be solved. Hope I didn't mess up with the approval (everyone is 
allowed to comment).
And you talk about character style and not paragraph, right? Otherwise it's a 
bug since ODF talks explicitly about the first.

On 04/04/2017 11:02 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Heiko,
> 
> I think there are some things, which need more than a new dialog:
> 
> There exists a lot of paragraph styles named "Numbering" and "List",
> but they have no connection to the corresponding list styles.
> 
> It is possible to set a paragraph style to an outline level and
> connect it with a list style. But the list level is not bind to the
> outline level. (You need this kind of outline heading, if you give an
> appendix an ABC outline numbering and your text has a 123 outline
> numbering.)
> 
> The numbered items in a text box do not build a list, so that
> changing the level of one item will not adapt the other numbers. The
> numbering dialog for a text box seems to be the same, but the
> position concept is different.
> 
> The presentation object "Outline text" has a strange mix of
> hierarchical styles, settings for numbering and bullets, but no
> "position". You need to set the position in each item individually.
> Here too the position concept is different from Writer.
> 
> It is very confusing (in Writer), that with the cursor in a heading,
> assigning a list style, or using "Bullets and Numbering" from the
> context menu, or clicking on the symbols in the toolbar, do very
> different things to the heading.
> 
> Kind regards Regina
> 
> Heiko Tietze schrieb:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> we have many tickets regarding numbering & bullets and outlines.
>> The problem has also a high relevance in the Nantes user
>> interviews, not knowing the details though.
>> 
>> Good time to think about a different solution:
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-6zkZl5LiICnUILhv1CfIHIdyQFyTJKp7XGST5zq5U
>>
>>
>> 
The proposal was made having the new area fill style dialog in mind
>> where three columns make a) the selection from pre- and
>> user-defined options simple, b) users get a full overview of all
>> settings, and c) preview shows how it looks in the end. The old
>> numbering logic is turned upside down a bit making the list styles
>> predominant as the preset. And since users may not be aware of the
>> different types, the numbering, bullets, and outline are merged
>> together.
>> 
>> All comments are welcome- and we should have a design session
>> eventually.
>> 
>> Cheers, Heiko
>> 
> 
> 

-- 
Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX Designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509


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