Present: Eyal, John, Heiko Comments: Stuart, Jan, Olivier, Roman, Dan, Bogdan, Jean-Francois
Tickets/Topics * In Help menu rename "Restart in Safe Mode" to "Troubleshoot Mode" + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171916 + implemented as "Troubleshoot Mode" meanwhile by Adolfo + Safe Mode was better (Eyal) => done * Colored text in documents should "invert" Brightness value in Dark Mode to be readable + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171806 + color shifting leads to color inaccuracies on save or print (Stuart) + scenario might require same colors, eg. to hide the text (Heiko) + Writer's use case is to produce print output (Jan) + agree with INVALID/WF; OP might want to discuss theme colors + accessibility issues are noted in the sidebar (Heiko) => INVALID/NAB * prune icon use in menus of Writer + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171892 + "show icons for the most important items" is quite subjective (Olivier) + current state is good enough (Roman) + support a massive reduction (Eyal, John) + Optional like "Show Icons: (o) Automatic ( ) All ( ) None" (Heiko) + better have this per item in the customization likewise for toolbars (Jan) => agreement * Avoid menu entry icons for menu entries that can be (de)selected + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171942 + note that with macOS 26/"Liquid Glass" design language most menu items get an icon now; this change is controversial (see https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2025/icons-in-menus/ ) and I'm not sure we should follow it (Dan) + depends on the VCL, gtk3 shown no icon (by default) (Eyal) + do not show any icon if the menu has radio/check buttons (Eyal) + do not show icons on the parent of submenus (Eyal, John) + require Customize: Menu to change icons including None (Heiko) + disagree as a prerequisite (Eyal) + want to enable/disable icons globally for the whole menu (Eyal) => agreement => Proposal: + File: Open, Save, Print + Edit: Cut, Copy, Paste, Find + View: none; Styles is important but just one icon is boring and no other is used frequently + Insert: Image, Hyperlink, Comment + Format: Character, Paragraph, Clear DF + Styles: Edit Styles, Manage Styles + Table: Insert Table, Autoformat Styles (should become TS) + Form: Control Properties, Form Properties (or icons for the individual controls and none for two) + Tools: Options * Reset in property dialogs should apply to all tabs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171897 + Reset button should only apply to the current tab (Bogdan, Jean-Francois) + which means to move the button into the tab + both are bad options; suggest a menu button that allows to Reset All tabs and Reset Current tab (the default) (Eyal) + We could also consider two Reset buttons - for the current tab and for all tabs (Eyal) + moving Reset into the tab is odd as it takes precious space, for example Paragraph > Alignment + menu buttons are more complex and detrimental to usability, in general (Heiko) + renaming the button into "Reset Tab" should work too but still keeps the positional inconsistency (Heiko) + this should be verified against the styles dialogs where we have a "Reset to Parent" => "Reset Tab to Parent" (ugly long button) => renaming is a good compromise -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
