On 11/25/2016 01:28 AM, J.wuensch wrote: > "This public goods problem can also apply to music, software, movies, > news, research, and so on…" > > I'm with mray. I think it would be good to put "free" in there. Because > that's what snowdrift.coop is all about. To support the people that > create stuff which is freely available to everyone. Like the sentence is > now, the "public" is clearly related to the "problem" and not > necessarily to music, software and so on... Of course one can make that > connection, but it's not said, that everyone will get it that quick. I > mean maybe they never had anything to do with this stuff and hear all > that for the first time. > I just think it's important to emphasize what we want to support. Yes, > the word "free" can be a bit confusing, but as you already said, it gets > further explained on the homepage, so I think it's ok to go here with > "free". Maybe even mention the support for the creators and the > distribution on the supporters, because that's essentially what this > platform is going to organize. I've done it with two questions that > should help to make it not too abstract. We should keep in mind that > none of the people out there has ever heard crowdmatching and thus it's > kind of abstract. I remember when I first stumbled across snowdrift.coop > there was that word crowdmatching and I didn't really get what it was > about. I took me a while to get the concept. > > So here is my suggestion. It's a bit longer but for me it's important > and I think it's worth the extra seconds: > > This public goods problem can also apply to freely available music, > software, movies, > news, research, and so on… But how to support those creators in a > sustainable way? And how do we fairly distribute the donations across > the supporters? > > That's why we developed.... > > So that's my feedback. All in all I like it! Good Job Aron! >
I like the idea, but I still lean against putting in these qualifiers into the script. I'm just not going to be happy with the partial, inadequate clarification. And we're definitely going to go over the 45 second mark with those extra questions. I think that has to wait for a longer video. Maybe the visuals can help? We could put the text "free/libre/open" and creative-commons logos and GNU logos and such in the video when we talk about the categories of public goods… thoughts? > cheers, > Johannes > > > Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.ch>, encrypted email based in > Switzerland. > > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] Intro video script >> Local Time: November 24, 2016 10:20 PM >> UTC Time: November 24, 2016 9:20 PM >> From: aa...@snowdrift.coop >> To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> >> n 11/24/2016 12:06 PM, mray wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 24.11.2016 20:46, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> SCRIPT2B/ >> >> >> >> The snowdrift dilemma: Whether or not we help, we all benefit from >> >> clearing the public road. So, who will do the work? >> > >> > We actually benefit from a clear road - not from its clearing. >> > >> >> Okay, rewrote to: >> >> "The snowdrift dilemma: Regardless of who clears the snow, we all >> benefit. So, who will do the work?" >> >> That's shorter and more precise too. More obvious that the snowdrift is >> the thing to clear. >> >> >> >> >> This public goods problem can also apply to music, software, movies, >> >> news, research, and so on… >> > >> > You are juggling concepts here, in the midst of all this it is not clear >> > at all that you are talking about "public music", "public software", >> .... >> > >> > Are you sure there is no time to throw in the word "free" ? >> > >> >> I think "free" without "free/libre/open" is confusing, "free/libre/open" >> is jargonny, and "free and open" emphasizes the misinterpretation of >> "free" as "gratis". >> >> I think "public music" is true but not needed to be said in a sentence >> that already references public goods. We're saying "it CAN apply" and >> will say outside of the video that it applies only in the case of true >> public music i.e. free/libre/open that is also of the caliber that it >> requires serious investment. We can't get into it here. We're just >> saying "this is about public goods, and keep in mind these categories of >> works" >> >> >> >> >> That's why we developed crowdmatching! >> >> >> >> At Snowdrift.coop, you pledge to donate a little bit for each >> patron who >> >> supports a project with you. We calculate donations monthly based >> on the >> >> numbers of patrons and your budget limit. >> >> >> >> This way, each donation is matched by the rest of the community, and we >> >> build consensus around the most promising projects. >> >> >> >> Come join us in clearing the path to a free and open future! >> >> >> >> /SCRIPT2B >> > >> > >> > looks great. getting curious where and how you choose to emphasize the >> > sentences :D >> > >> > >> >> With the updated first line: >> >> SCRIPT2C/ >> >> The snowdrift dilemma: Regardless of who clears the snow, we all >> benefit. So, who will do the work? >> >> This public goods problem can also apply to music, software, movies, >> news, research, and so on… >> >> That's why we developed crowdmatching! >> >> At Snowdrift.coop, you pledge to donate a little bit for each patron who >> supports a project with you. We calculate donations monthly based on the >> numbers of patrons and your budget limit. >> >> This way, each donation is matched by the rest of the community, and we >> build consensus around the most promising projects. >> >> Come join us in clearing the path to a free and open future! >> >> /SCRIPT2C >> >> We can see if others have further feedback, but I think we should >> already start storyboarding with this. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Design mailing list >> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > > > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > Design@lists.snowdrift.coop > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design >
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