On 26/02/14 17:04, Jon Robson wrote:
> MobileFrontend is an arse to setup and a lot of it is either
specifically coded to suit Wikipedia, or it makes assumptions, such as
the skin, that are often not viable for other projects at all.
This comment greatly surprised me. MobileFrontend was previously very
difficult to set up but should now be very trivial. When did you last try?
I'm not sure what you mean about assumptions and how this would effect
the homepage redesign. If the redesign is designed responsively it
will just work. MobileFrontend is its own skin so it's not making
assumptions - it knows what skin it is running in...
Set it up sometime in 2013, been running into problems ever since,
mostly with caching. As I recall we wound up having to direct mobile
users to just use an app that just made sure the mobile version was called.
But it may be an issue with the documentation, then, especially this -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Configuring_browser_auto-detection
* It's unclear what you mean by 'front-end caching' - what all does
this cover? Is it just squid/varnish-type things, or does it include
the file cache as well? Many projects do use at least that.
* The example varnish configuration appears to be missing. Can this be
fixed?
I don't mean that MF poses problems with the homepage, I mean these are
issues for third-party users, and that the way it's listed on the
homepage is very misleading because it implies it's part of core and
works out of the box. (The skin-specific problems may have been fixed in
the master/current, but as a general rule third-party users will not be
using the current version. They'll be using something marked as stable
for their mw version.)
MF may well be on its way to being good for most everyone running a wiki
of similar format to wikipedia, but it ain't there yet, and that's also
just MF, not MediaWiki out of the box, hence my comments.
-I
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