I vehemently disagree with almost every line you just wrote. Just to get that 
out there...

DJ

> On 29 mrt. 2015, at 23:02, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Quim Gil wrote:
>> Sorry, but the behavior in your reply constitutes an anti-pattern of
>> collaboration in a friendly space. No bug or feature or difference of
>> opinions justifies it. Please, let's be friendly, or at the very least
>> respectful.
> 
> There's no indication that the Wikimedia Foundation mobile team is
> interested in collaboration. Years of evidence suggest that the team is
> only interested in shoving as many features as possible into the
> MobileFrontend extension to avoid scrutiny and review. The Wikimedia
> Foundation mobile team needs to re-integrate with the rest of the
> Wikimedia community. The past behavior of violating core Wikimedia design
> principles, such as prohibiting open editing with misleading error
> messages and discouraging new article creation by unilaterally removing
> red links, has been consistently unacceptable and it needs to stop.
> 
> Better than Phabricator tasks, there are Gerrit changesets waiting to be
> reviewed, but there's only been obstructionism from the mobile team. It's
> pretty tiring and any help you can provide in cleaning up this mess would
> definitely be appreciated. As it is, I'm still hoping we can kill the
> MobileFrontend extension in 2015, but it's a bit of a long shot.
> 
> I've been thinking about some mobile development principles. One easy
> principle seems to be, as a general rule, that mobile features are a
> strict subset of desktop site features. That is, if this mobile strapline
> is so important that it must be shouted at our users, using bold font and
> bright colors in a very prominent position, then there should at least be
> some parity with the desktop site. And there are, of course, lessons to be
> learned from the stripped down mobile interface. For example, if the
> sidebar links and paragraph of disclaimer text in the footer really aren't
> necessary, why include them on desktop? It's time for reconciliation here.
> 
> MZMcBride
> 
> 
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