On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:46 PM, I wrote:

> ... every other human interest guideline.
>

Sorry, "Interface". Human interest guidelines lead to the horror of Daily
Mail Online :-)

If Quiet and Neutral aren't sufficient Shahyar prototyped at least two more
> excellent ideas (I can't find the link right now...)
>
http://area51.yar.gs/wmf/flow1/  To repeat, a page would only use a subset
of these at any one time, ignore the overstuffed appearance.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Isarra Yos <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 21/10/15 19:46, S Page wrote:
>
>> Users not understanding the design is no argument for consolidation, I
>> bet users get an 'D' at best on Material and every other human interest
>> guideline.
>>
>
> If users aren't the ones we are designing for, then who is?


Obviously design is for users. But having a pleasant productive time using
a design and understanding its nuances are very different things.  "Testing
with your users to see if they understand the difference between [two
button colors]" seems crazy (unless I misunderstand what designers mean by
"understand"). Does Google test to see if users understand the difference
between the rounded edge and the shadowed edge in Material? I really doubt
it. Different colors and treatments provide different experiences, and
there are guidelines when to use them.


> Wasn't the whole point of the colours is to call the users' attention to
> them, and the point of differentiating is to tell the users that these are
> different things?
>
Sort of, and yes.

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=S Page  WMF Tech writer
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