I think, I actually I'm pretty sure I muddled the conversation by
using Focus and Selection poorly. The band-aid solution I was
referring to was that web apps could only mimic Selection with Focus
+ Enter + Page Refresh. (e.g. Tabs on the Desktop versus Tabs on a
website). And so if we do away with Focus + Enter for Event Lozenges
because we are now able to implement Selection, then we will never
get into the situation I depicted in the mockup: where one Event
Lozenge has a dotted line around it because it has Focus and a 2nd
Event Lozenge has a dotted line around it because it is Tentative.
Either way, I'm going to tweak the dotted outline a bit more, but I
think we've inadvertently reached agreement. :o)
On May 2, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Matthew Eernisse wrote:
Mimi Yin wrote:
But what if the web convention was a band-aid solution to make up
for a lack of desktop functionality? And now that we're able to
implement desktop functionality, do we still want the band-aid
solution on top of the real solution?
I guess maybe it got lost in all the discussion back and forth, but
in my e-mail I was trying to emphasize that the 'dotted line to
indicate focus' is not a Web-only bandaid solution. It's not
something to make up for lack of desktop functionality in the browser.
It's a ubiquitous Windows convention used to indicate either focus
or focus/selection.
The same little dotted line to indicate focus on UI elements shows
up whether you're in a Web form in IE or Mozilla, or in the
Settings panel for HomeSite, or in the Windows Network Setup
Wizard, or whatever.
I think in Scooby, we should allow users to Navigate between Days
of the Week by just Selecting the Day of the Week, rather than
having to do the whole Focus + Enter thing. This kind of Auto-
Selection is exactly the kind of interaction that makes Desktop
apps feel smooth.
I think this is a great idea. I can take a quick look-see at how
easy it would be to add basic event-to-event navigation for Scooby
that works this way. It already works that way for a single click
on an event lozenge.
I'm a bit confused here though, because initially this discussion
(I think) started off with the idea of showing 'tentative' status
events with the essentially the same dotted line normally used to
indicate focus. How would you indicate that an event has focus/
selection if it already had something as its border that looked
exactly like a focus indication?
If the idea is to blow off focus indication completely for lozenges
and just select the event outright, then it might be a moot point. :)
Matthew
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