New Threads:
Priscilla posted about the Cosmo button styles
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007231.html
+ Priscilla had attached the latest button mockups to https://
bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8560
+ This is still on the list of changes for Preview.
Priscilla started a Cosmo thread on - Draft: Consistent language on
the web UI/desktop
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007234.html
+ Priscilla did a first pass at an inventory of all the messages and
text on the WebUI and made recommendations for changes in order to
make this consistent.
+ This includes terminology that we use on the desktop as well as the
server.
http://wiki.osafoundation.org/Journal/ConsistentLanguageHubDesktop
Bobby started a lengthy thread on - Server Restraints and the Dashboard
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007238.html
+ Now that we are working on the Cosmo version of the dashboard the
team is uncovering a number of concerns that are specific to handling
viewing the NOW, LATER and DONE sections on the Web vs the Desktop.
Specifically how do we deal with pulling in all this data when some
of these sections can be quite large.
+ The issues that surfaced were....
+ The current design has some performance and scalability issues we
need to consider. People are worried about the performance
implications of pulling in all the data.
+ How do we look at distributing the work between the server and
client to minimize the transfer and still show what's necessary.
+ We looked at some proposals such as not displaying everything in
the DONE section.
+ We also explored time range queries for the sections.
+ The list conversation was simply an exploration of concerns and
ideas but not concrete proposals were reached.
+ For closure - we had a follow-up meeting to talk about the options
in more detail. http://chandlerproject.org/Journal/
CosmoDashboardServerConstraints20070524
+ In the end we decided to add in support for auto-triage
capabilities which will help. The developers were working on the list
of rules on what appears in various sections at anyone time. We will
also only display a subset of the items in the DONE section.
Bobby also posted a Cosmo thread titled - Keep out of my dashboard!
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007239.html
+ Bobby pointed out that we have the facility in the desktop to
include or exclude certain collections from the dashboard. He was
wondering how this translated to Cosmo since we hadn't addressed this
specifically in the spec.
+ Priscilla explained that there is a dashboard view of a particular
collection and there is the main dashboard collection in the desktop
that may or may not be shared. Cosmo will display whatever happens to
be shared (if the user shares the main dashboard) and we are not
constructing any special collection.
Pieter posted an issue - not sure if this is a bug - item focus is
lost in shift from All to Calendar
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007249.html
+ Pieter navigated to an old date in the list view and then clicked
on the calendar app area. He expected the displayed week to be for
the old date he had selected in the list view.
+ This is an old bug that was logged and eventually punted do to the
amount of work involved. There are also still some unresolved
questions about getting the right design and we hope to explore this
further after Preview.
Jeffrey posted new thread on - Not including to/from in emails from
Chandler
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007253.html
+ Jeffrey had several suggestions
+ We don't include to: and from: in the body of the email if they
are actually email addresses
+ Not add the date field if the email's date field differs from the
date in the body.
+ Use the format Event details: at *location* on *date info*
+ There was agreement on fixing the first 2. Jeffrey and Mimi were
still iterating on changes to make the format of the event details
less confusing.
Mimi sent out a proposal for - Separate Chandler Hub and Server
account types
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007256.html
+ Mimi suggested we have 3 account types for Chandler Hub Sharing,
Chandler Server Sharing and WebDAV Sharing
+ We decided to get rid of the notion of default accounts because
they are problematic.
+ OOTB we get the Chandler Hub Sharing account and the user simply
needs to input their username and password
+ The user can choose to add a new account and select from Chandler
Hub Sharing, Chandler Server and WebDAV Sharing. In each case, they
will be presented with appropriate fields that need to be filled in.
Bryan Stearns send out a thread on Bug 7522: start and end time
automagically changing wrong
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007260.html
+ Priscilla run into some issues when she tried to extend and event
and entered a time after midnight. Since the actual time ends up
"earlier" than the start time, we automatically change it to an @
time event.
+ We fixed this by checking to see if the end time is changed to a
start time AFTER 5:00pm, then we assume it's the next day.
Mimi sent out a thread asking if - Isn't the Triage Status column
sort is broken?
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007283.html
+ She brought up the issue that when you migrate your data, the NOW
section seems to be littered with DONE and LATER items. It doesn't
seem to be automatically sorted by triage status.
+ There are several reasons why we have it this way - new items,
changed, edited are supposed to be in the NOW section. Mimi created a
bug to track this post-Preview with more user feedback. https://
bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9175
Mimi posted about an issue - Triaged items keep re-appearing in NOW
when I sync
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007291.html
+ This is something that is still an issue. We have fixed some of the
problems but there are issues with recurring events. I believe we are
checking in a bunch of fixes this week that will address most of
these bugs.
Priscilla sent out an Update on the Cosmo 0.7 spec
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007296.html
Mimi posted a few thread on - Time zone options - A little bit o'
options can be a dangerous thing...
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007298.html
+ Mimi discovered a few user issues maintaining shares calendars
where some events were in NY time and some in LA time. She
articulated some weird use cases when other people subscribe and turn
on timezones.
+ We are not attempting to solve this issue in the Preview timeframe
and Mimi has logged a bug to track it. https://
bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9208
Mimi sent out a summary of all the bugs we found in our Friday - PPD-
QA Edit/Update Testing Session
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007307.html
Previous Discussions:
Mimi sent out a last call for the thread - when Dashboard does not
equal Dashboard
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007259.html
+ Pieter had previously restored his shares and since he had shared
his main dashboard and ended up with 2 of them when he restored.
+ For Preview - if you share an OOTB collection then migrate via dump
and reload you will see the collection duped because we can't synch
up the OOTB collection that was shared and the new one created when
you reload.
+ Non shared OOTB collections should work fine.
+ In the end we resolved this because OOTB collections CANNOT be shared.
Other Stuff:
Davor sent out a link to OmniFocus beta
http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/007267.html
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