Though I'm not annoyed particularly by the automatic re-ordering in response to edits, I think it is unhelpful much more often than helpful. I find the automatic re-ordering somewhat useful when I have sorted on a particular column, for example, and am making similar changes in that field for several items, as the changed items "disappear" to their new location in the table, there is a sense of completion of sorts. The downside being that if I have further edits or want to verify my edits for some of these items that have jumped automatically to a new location, I have to go find them.
I have a proposal. What if the Triage button on the toolbar became in essence the "refresh the sort order" button for all columns displayed in a table. That is, there would be no automatic re-ordering of items in the table in response to user edits. Edits to items in any field displayed in the table (including kind stamps) would be used to sort the items when the Triage toolbar button is pressed. Automatic reordering triggered by alarms firing, inbound changes to items, etc. would be unaffected. Behavior produced by clicking on the triage status column header would be unchanged. My personal new item triage workflow frequently includes making several different edits to each item in addition to changing its triage status. I think this proposal would address Dan's issues, and Keith's usage. What do you think? What am I missing? Cheers, Andre On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:05:34 +0000, "Keith Winsor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Dan Steinicke wrote: > > I think this also ties in to the end user confusion around the > > "Triage" button. I have always thought it would be much more > > intuitive to just have the triage column header button do what the > > "Triage" button now does. In my understanding the main function of > > the "Triage" button is to prevent row reordering when you change the > > triage state. If rows only re-ordered when the headers were clicked > > then it would seem we would be able to simplify this work flow as > > well. Are there users out there who like the automatic > > re-ordering in response to edits? Are there users out there who are > > annoyed by the dashboard re-ordering in response to edits? > > Dan _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Dan, > > I agree re automatic sorting making it confusing to keep track of items. > > I'm not so sure about 'simplifying' the Triage button. I've noticed > (i.e. this method of usage has crept up on me and your post has made me > realise how I do it!) that I tend to make triage decisions in the Now > section on a screenful of items at a time, then triage to dispose of the > Dones and Laters I've just marked, before dealing with the next batch. I > guess it gives me my instant gratification in more manageable chunks! It > occurs to me that if someone has amended a shared Later event (which > pops into Now as a result) that by doing this I might miss the event > unless it shows up on the first page of Nows, and triage it unseen back > to Later, so maybe I should just change my usage pattern, in which case > using headers would be a viable solution. But I think the triage button > is a bit of a USP of Chandler and genuinely gives you that 'I've > achieved all of this' feeling, where clicking on a column header > doesn't. So objectively I agree but subjectively I disagree! > > Any other users out there with odd Chandler habits? > > Keith > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > Open Source Applications Foundation "Design" mailing list > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/design _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Design" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/design
