This is very sad. I'm a great fun of this applet too and surely i'm going to miss it. Yet as a developer myself I understand the words of Sebastian Pölsterl, 'cause I have a few project on my own that i keep maintaining in my spare time and I surely need some help from other guys.
Not a long time ago I've tried to develop a new plugin for deskbar-applat that would've allowed to search for packages and files with aptitude and apt-file, but this project of mina has been suddenly dismissed due to lack of time. One day maybe I can consider the possibility of contributing to deskbar-applet, who knows... It occured to me though that the project gnome-do has a few similar capabilities. By the way I've found hard to switch from deskbar-applet to gnome-do and actually i'm still using deskbar-applet. Well...all of this just to let you know that you are not alone. I'm gonna miss deskbar-applet too ;) Cheers Gab. On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Sebastian Pölsterl <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 01.07.2011 22:29, schrieb John Accoun: > > Hey all. > Hi John, > > > Just like Addadi, I'm another happy deskbar-applet user that would like > to > > keep using it. > > > > I don't know what the real purpose of this email is besides sharing my > > opinion, but here it goes anyway... > > > > I've been using gnome for many years and the deskbar applet for maybe 3 > > years or so. Deskbar applet and tomboy notes are the two pieces of > software > > I use the most on my personal computer. > > The recent developments in gnome made me take the decision of changing my > > desktop environment. The reason why I haven't move to openbox yet is the > > deskbar applet. There are many launchers out there, personally I like > kupfer > > and gmrun too, but both of them are in my opinion inferior to the deskbar > > applet, no offense to the good people developing and maintaining them. > > > > I find all this rather sad. Gnome is the result of the hard work of many > > people, it shines as a light/simple yet powerful/efficient desktop > > environment and now because of the current eye candy trends that legacy > is > > going to be trashed. > > > I agree with you that dropping applets from gnome-shell was not a good > idea. I complained in the past, but to no avail. The fact is that > apparently an applet-like infrastructure is not longer wanted in GNOME3. > > > [...] > > I think this project could be perfectly saved and mophed into a stand > alone > > application instead of a panel applet. I am a software developer myself > > myself, but my knowledge on free desktop technologies is limited. I > actually > > dug a bit into them a while ago and found myself in an unpleasant swamp > of > > undocumented libraries and standards. So I unfortunately I don't have > what > > it takes to maintain this project. > > > Actually, you can use as a standalone application for quite some time, > it isn't obvious though. Start deskbar-applet from the command line with > the "-w" option will bring up a regular window. > > Unfortunately, just removing the applet related parts won't do it. You > would have to port quite some code to make it GNOME3-ready. This at > least includes porting from pygtk2 (GTK2) to pygobject (GTK3) and from > gconf to dconf. Those tasks will take a considerable amount of time to > complete. > > > I also noticed that most of the people that maintains software that is > > tightly integrated with gnome, either works or has worked as a developer > of > > applications for gnome. > > For an outsider, this feels like it's some kind of a secret society, and > > honestly, I myself lack the patience to walk whatever path to get into > such > > circles. > > While deskbar has proper documentation for plugin developers, the docs > that > > would provide one the necessary skills to write deskbar applet itself are > > nowhere to be seen. > > > Keep in mind that many developers maintain their applications in their > free time, including myself. Therefore, they prefer to write actual code > instead of writing documentation. Getting to know the internals of a > project is never easy, but I'd be happy to help anybody who is serious > about maintaining deskbar-applet in the future. > > > Sorry if this was a long email. It may be my farewell to deskbar applet. > > To all those who contributed to this great little tool, my sincere > > gratitude. > > So long deskbar applet. > > > Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Unfortunately, I > don't think the situation will change until someone else is stepping up > to lead the project in new directions. I myself moved on by now and > accepted that fact that deskbar-applet's time expired. > > -- > Greetings, > Sebastian Pölsterl > > > _______________________________________________ > deskbar-applet-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/deskbar-applet-list > > -- *"Egli è scritto in lingua matematica, e i caratteri son triangoli, cerchi, ed altre figure geometriche, senza i quali mezzi è impossibile a intenderne umanamente parola; senza questi è un aggirarsi vanamente per un oscuro laberinto."* ** *-- *G. Galilei*, Il saggiatore.* **
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