Mark Shuttleworth [2008-10-14 18:44 -0000]: > It's bad form, from a usability perspective, to have lots of ways to > achieve the same goal.
Agreed on that. > It's reasonable to lead people from one place where they often go > and peek to try and get something done to the "right place" Right, I just don't see how to sanely do that "use that ----> button over here" educationary UI in the current state of intrepid (or at all, but that requires some UI expert). > but not to have two, totally different, ways to do something. That's actually my very concern here. With the current panel we currently have one way which *always* works (system menu). If we hide that, we suddenly have two different ways to shut down the system, one for people with fusa, one for people without. Since we can't enforce fusa without rewriting the panel first [1], we still need to have the system menu entries at least for upgrades. [1] Side note: OMGponies! My poor panel is going to be abducted! http://live.gnome.org/Boston2008/GUIHackfest/WindowManagementAndMore > The same reason we don't ship evolution *and* thunderbird! That's actually a very good example. If an user installed tbird and upgrades to intrepid, he will continue to have tbird, while a fresh intrepid installation comes with evo. I know that it doesn't fit this bug to 100%, but it demonstrates that we need to take into account user preferences for not doing things the way we intend to by default. > True, we need to figure out how to coach people through changes like > this, but we also should not be afraid to move people firmly in a > particular direction. Full ack on this. Thank you! Martin -- Martin Pitt | http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283278 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
