I have since discovered that the 9.10 which had the problem was close to Beta. After I found the problem I got around 300 updates some I see are to the keyring software which may be why it behaved this way.
So the reason for the keyring problem is due to a Beta version 9.10 Ubuntu. ** Changed in: gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- keyring complicates Network Manager https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/476967 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-keyring in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs