Daniel; you suggest that for those of using the gnome mixer stuff that
we should file a bug against that; I did (24090) - it got closed because
it is similar to this one - I can't win hey?

I suggest there really are two separate bugs:

  1) Somewhere in the mixer hardware/driver a setting of '0' on the
'master' mixer does not cause the output to be muted; it is possible
that this is what the hardware expects; but it's also possible its just
a driver bug; either way it either needs fixing in the driver or
actually definining that '0' is just quieter than '1'; and needs to be
consistant accross different cards.

  2) The gnome-applet expects '0' to be equivalent to mute and thus
displays its mute symbol (and doesn't let you set the real mute). Hence
why I filed 24090.

I suggest reopening 24090 to attack the gnome bug; I'm not sure what the
right answer to (1) is - if the hardware really doesn't mute on 0 volume
then I guess it's ok to define it like that; but it is probably
confusing as hell but I guess it isn't consistant accross the different
cards.

(The text of the reject in 24090 seems odd - it seems to ref bug 10155
which is completely different)

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sound still comes out of speakers when PCM volume is set to 0
https://launchpad.net/bugs/16454

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