On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:42:34AM +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 19:15 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > > Collaborative editing is an application many people don't seem to have > > > realised is possible with their computers; I think having it available > > > such that two GNOME users can easily start a collaborative session > > > together would be massively beneficial. > > I agree that this is a very cool and useful feature. > > > I agree, and I also thought about asking for integration. It's just > > that Gnome already has GEdit as a general purpose editor. It's sad > > that the plugin architecture just wasn't good enough for us when we > > started the project. It seemed easier to actually reinvent the wheel. > > This suggests that the gedit plugin architecture today could be used to > implement a collaborative editor on top of libobby, is that the case? > > > We release a new candidate, 0.3.0rc1, today and 0.3.0 will be ready > > within the next weeks. There are some rumours that there are some > > users even in the Free Software Foundation. > > Gobby is a very cool application, but I don't think it is a good > candidate for Desktop. Not in its current state. > > The litmus test for inclusion should not be "this application is cool", > but "is this application useful to everyone and does it integrate > tightly".
I beleive that statement is wrong, many things in GNOME are not useful to *everyone*, some kind of compromise needs to be made between "usefull for 1 person" and "usefull for every person on the planet" I think it should be more like "This application can be usefull to many people and integrates tightly" I do agree with the rest tho, and I certainly agree that a plugin to gedit would be awesome, I also heard of some integration to abiword/gnumeric/etc that would rock, esp from gnumeric as I'm doing some things at work at the moment where having a collaborative spreadsheet in gobby style would be saving me much pain :) Trent > > By including gobby into the desktop, we now have an ordinary editor and > a collaborative editor. This will only serve to highlight a lack of > integration and people would only ask why we couldn't have an 'Edit > Together' button in the text editor. > > Standing on its own, it does not have that problem. > > I want to reiterate again, that inclusion in Desktop is not the most > mighty goal a project can achieve. I think we can still give excellent > press through GNOME Journal "Application in Focus" articles which we > then link off the main page of the website. We could do this for a > number of applications: F-spot, Beagle, Gobby, Gossip, Banshee... > anything that is currently popular. Perhaps in an interview format with > one or many of the developers. > > In summary: Gobby application: excellent. Gobby technology: excellent. > Having two text editors in GNOME: not excellent. > > -- > Davyd Madeley > > http://www.davyd.id.au/ > 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Trent Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bur.st Networking Inc. _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
