Hi, On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:57:04 +0200 Lluis Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] > If there are memory and performance problems with Mono or Python, > excluding them from GNOME is not a solution, because like it or not > users will still use them to run applications. > > GNOME should adapt to this reality if it wants to survive. [...] I don't understand the argument: You're right that some users use Mono apps but others don't. So, why should GNOME adapt to one part of the user community, and ignore the other part? Users can already use Mono applications if they like to; it's just an 'apt-get install * ' away. No problem. Why should they care about Mono apps being included (in the desktop release)? Also, developers can already use Mono without GNOME depending Mono so why should the policy be changed? On the other hand, if GNOME depends on Mono, it will be hard to deinstall it without breaking GNOME. Just wait a few releases. This will fragment the user community, and we don't need any more fragmentation in the desktop: It's already bloody complicated to write an article for a journal when considering the differences between KDE and GNOME. It's frustrating to explain every time: "Under KDE, you do this to get X, and under GNOME you do that to get X." If you don't write it, you just frustrate new users. Reading all this stuff is even more frustrating! Including Mono will just lead to another desktop being used widely, namely XFce. Splitting our user community will also lead to less influence. Third-party projects already ignore very basic HIG recommendations. And in fact: Why should they bother? It's not that GNOME appears to be the leading Linux desktop, isn't it? If we split due to the desktop release depending on Mono, it will be even harder to convince third-party projects to follow our example. I absolutely agree with you that it's the width and variety of available desktop applications that matter for the success of a desktop! At the same time, a (core) desktop is more useful the more people use it. Mono seems like a good platform so it should be able to sell itself. On the other hand, the risks of forcing users to opt-out instead of letting them opt-in are immense. Just my 2cents from a non-developer point of view. Cheers, Claus _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
