On 2/14/07, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:27 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: > > [I'll note that the direction the rest of this thread has gone is > > indicative of why I'm very, very pessimistic about the long-term > > health of GNOME right now. Take this as a mild attempt to get back on > > track by talking about users and user experience instead of > > capitalization of directories which users should never see anyway, and > > which has previously been discussed repeatedly, endlessly and without > > resolution.] > > It's not just about Capitalization. It's about localization. Getting it > wrong will upset significant amounts of people for a long time. > > The answer is not to ignore the difficult decision. It needs to be > presented as a choice between various pros and cons, with a decision > being made for one choice or the other, clearly stating that we believe > one set of disadvantages is not as bad as another. Then moving on. > > Dealing with complex issues properly doesn't mean that we are incapable > of deciding. Quick decisions often lead to pain and misunderstanding. We > are somewhere in the middle.
The discussion is of course important, which is why we've had it repeatedly, and it is hard, which is why we've had it repeatedly and not solved it. But we've devoted something like thirty emails in this thread alone to it, with no signs of it slowing, plus (IIRC) something like seventy emails the last time, and who knows how many prior to that. And we've devoted less than ten emails to the topic that started the thread- an idea which would massively and substantively improve our user experience and broaden our impact, and *which Christian has correctly pointed out will have failed if people ever see a file heirarchy*. So... fine. I'll grant that it is important. Go ahead, discuss it. My problem is in continuing to discuss it 5-10 times as much as we're discussing actually moving us forward, helping our users, and striking at our competitors. While we're busy having that discussion, and not discussing media centers, Apple and Microsoft are busy developing Apple TV and Xbox and kicking our asses in yet another area. Luis P.S. To put it another way, I recall from our last discussion of this that Apple hasn't solved it either. And I agree that it sucks. And in the meantime, while it has sucked, they've settled on ~/Music, moved on, worked on iTunes, and iTunes has taken over the world. The localization (or lack thereof) of ~/Music has not hurt them, because they are writing awesome software. This discussion is completely failing to help us write awesome software. _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
