On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 13:58, Christopher Roy Bratusek
<[email protected]>wrote:

> > I'm not personally attacking people with whom I disagree. I just
> > described where the different perception of how many users want to
> > replace their WM might come from. Which is quite a central point when
> > discussing whether it's hugely important to be WM agnostic, or not.
>
...

> Well, I already said, but still, I'm speaking what users think. I'm reading
> it
> on Forums, OpenDesktop, ProLinux, ML & Co. All I wanted is that people at
> least listen to it, but for some this seems impossible.

...

> But as some have unvealed today, it's not the real reason, marketing is the
> magic word and to provide a desktop "made from one", and some other less
> valid
> reasons (eg.: even if you allow modularization you can provide great user-
> experience as modifications made by the user bother him/her not you).
>
> So today I finally got the real reasons told and I told you my opinion
> (with
> wich, as you can see from the responses, I'm not alone).
>

Your tone and behavior is outside the bounds of what I care to continue to
engage and so this will be my last response to you. I said that I was
speaking as a member of the Marketing Team. The MT had *no* involvement
whatsoever in guiding the design of GNOME Shell. Jon and Jakob's UI Shell
designs stand on their own as good user interface design--that is their
goal, nothing else. The MT's job is to take the finished product and narrate
that to the outside world. You cannot take anything else from what I wrote.


> Just one last thing for now: Most of those who disagreed with me are
> developers, most of them who agreed with me are users. For me that means
> that
> I'm right when I say I'm pointing out what I heard from users all around
> the
> places.


No one subscribed to d-d-l would be representative of our end users. I could
not even consider the occasional unhappy enthusiast on a forum
representative.


> Also note the discussion about the applets, there where several people
> complaining. Next take into account that you a) have to register for this
> ML
> and b) be "brave" enough (lots of users simply don't ask/complain/comment
> because they think "they don't are allowed/have the right").
>
> Now if you take the complaining people from all places mentioned above and
> all
> other places I never visited (regional forums, LUGs etc pp), you can be
> sure
> that more than 1% is unhappy with your decision.
>
> Of course it's yours, but it must be possible that critics aren't
> automatically interpreted as rants or attacks. I got the feeling some
> around
> here do that.
>

You are ranting and your tone is entirely accusatory.
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