On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Lennart Poettering <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > I second that. > > Speaking as a member of the Debian GNOME team, having the independent > > parts be compilable on their own would definitely help us: > > - While Debian has a systemd package and we hope to have systemd as a > > supported alternative for wheezy, sysvinit is still the default. > > Having GNOME depend on systemd would definitely complicate things for > > us. > > - Debian's has non-Linux ports. Having the non-arch specific parts in > > a separate package would mean we can more easily make the GNOME > > packages depend on them. > > No, that's not going to happen. systemd is strictly Linux-only. I have > What is not going to happen? systemd is Linux only, or GNOME is systemd only? Look, systemd is wonderful; it works great. But GNOME is a desktop environment, and making it tied to an init system does not make sense. > no plans porting it to other kernels, and I will not merge any such > patches. One of the reasons systemd is small and easy to read is that we > don't waste time and resources on abstractions and use the power the > Linux platform supports. For example our main loops are pure epoll(), > and I have no plans at all supporting anything else with a metric ton of > #ifdefs. > > If the other kernels matter, then the folks working on them should share > our interfaces (such as the hostnamed bus iface), not our code. > Your interface is the POSIX standard? You don't care about other Unix like systems with other init implementations; you would screw Debian, Ubuntu, BSDs, Solaris, etc. But this is not and cannot be the attitude for a wide community. You have no logical argument to force a desktop environment to support a very narrow viewpoint of yours. > What I am willing to support is builds of systemd that consist only of > the tiny mechanism daemons, and leave the core of it outside. That way > folks can install these mechanisms and stick with their old init systems > for a while. > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. > -- Andy Tai, [email protected], Skype: licheng.tai Year 2011 民國100年 自動的精神力是信仰與覺悟 自動的行為力是勞動與技能
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