On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Shaun McCance <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Hello Federico, > > > > > > > > Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu: > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct > > > > "Assume people mean well" > > > > > > Federico made no statements as to anybody's intentions or motivations. > > > > > > For reference, this is is what it looks like when you assume somebody > > > doesn't mean well: > > > > > > "Person X did Y wrong BECAUSE he/she is evil." > > > > > > This, however, is just a disagreement about what a person did: > > > > > > "Person X did Y wrong." > > > > > > We have to be able to disagree with people's actions and to discuss > > > those disagreements publicly. If we can't, our community dies. > > > > I'm sorry, but thinly veiled insults are still insults. > > > > --8<-- > > From: Maître D' > > Subject: Spitting in the soup > > > > The kitchen staff IS NOT welcome to: > > > > * Spit in the soup > > --8<-- > > ^^^ Still not an insult. > > > "I didn't say you spat in the soup" > > Federico didn't say this. I may have implied it in my email to > Emmanuele. I'm sorry for that. I worded my response poorly. > > I stand by my assertion that you aren't NOT assuming somebody > means well if you don't ascribe motivation. You can very well > assume somebody has the best intentions at heart and still > vehemently disagree with their actions. > > > Trying to hide the fact that Federico was venting for whatever reason > > isn't going to help keep this community any more healthy. > > It's clear there is a non-negligible group of people who feel > disenfranchised. Trying to hide that fact isn't going to help > either. Whether or not anybody has done anything wrong, we have > to figure out why people feel this way. > You hit the nail on the head. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. Thank you for this > -- > Shaun > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > Cheers Seif
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