On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 13:06 +0800, Aron Xu wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Matthias Clasen >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Aron Xu <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I would like to get your clarification about what's your decision on >> >> IBus integration because all of us haven't reached to an agreement on >> >> the whole thing. While I feel that you'll do it regardless of >> >> complaints from users when reading the Wiki page, which explicitly >> >> emphasis the opinions from foreign developers who doesn't use input >> >> method at all. This can be frustrating and I'd like to eliminate it, >> >> so if I get no certain response in a reasonable time frame, I'll >> >> assume that no one is able to speak up about the decision and it's >> >> automatically become a not-for-3.6 thing, then I'll revert any commit >> >> causing input method related behavior change that are not agreed here. >> > >> > Aron, threatening to 'revert any commit' in modules that you don't >> > maintain is not a great way to reach agreement. >> > >> > I can't give you the 'official' decision that you want, but I am still >> > very much planning to go ahead with the IBus integration for 3.6. The >> > work is being done carefully. Rui has accumulated quite a few patches, >> > and we are waiting for some fixes on the IBus side before landing >> > them. >> > >> > As for complaints, I expect that we will get some feedback when the >> > integration has actually landed...when people have a chance to try it >> > out. I hope you will, too. When you do, keep in mind that this work is >> > still very new and may need a while to mature and reach its full >> > potential. >> >> OK, I get the point: users' opinion worth nothing when "design" said >> something is good, even there are significant disagreements flow into >> mailing list, even when you don't use it anyhow. It's completely >> frustrating and I won't revert anything as you said it was >> "threatening". > > Did you bring any concern during GNOME.Asia? There were designers > attending there. That seemed to be a good opportunity to talk face to > face, show in practice the issues, etc. >
I was a speaker talking about Chinese localization and input method support, but I failed to get the oppurtunity to talk directly to him just because he (if not they, I only know Alan) was just two busy at the venue. Actually we had a lot of talks about input method during GNOME Asia, but it seems have no effect on this very item either, unfortunately. > In order to keep the discussion healthy, it is important to keep in mind > people mean well for discussion as our Code of Conduct says > (https://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct) > I'm aware that this CoC will be raised before I start posting. AFAIK, please: * be respectful and considerate: when users disagree, please don't be ignorant. * be patient and generous: don't try to push something hard when design said yes but users said no. * assume people mean well: don't use CoC to "threat" people when you see someone is intensely disagreeing. * try to be concise: yes, you are concise and this phrase has nothing to do here. -- Regards, Aron Xu _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
