On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Vincent Untz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > The discussion about features is supposed to heat up next week, but I'll > actually be offline. So I'd like to start discussion on the fallback > mode today. > > First of all, go read the wiki page: > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode > > It more or less documents the current situation with the fallback mode. > And I'm of the opinion that we can't accept this situation for 3.8 > anymore. > > So, the two alternatives I can think of are: > > a) get more people to work on the fallback mode so that it has a high > enough quality and follows the current vision of the project > > b) do not have a fallback mode anymore (or at least, not the current > one...) > > (if anyone can think of another option, please raise your voice) > > Please note that option b doesn't necessarily mean that all of the > features present in GNOME for the fallback mode get dropped too (this > would need to be discussed, and this is possibly up to each maintainer), > nor that fallback modules suddenly stop to be maintained (although this > might happen if nobody steps up). It's merely about stopping to endorse > as offical the current fallback mode. > > It'd be useful to know to what extent people would be affected if we > stop supporting the fallback mode. For instance, last June, Antoine > mentioned that llvmpipe support is not there yet on OpenBSD...
We discussed this at the Boston Summit. At least two major community members still use gnome-panel and metacity, simply because they liked the workflow better than the GNOME 3 way of working. There were lots of things that were discussed; some of these systems and complaints are addressable for 3.8, and others are not. I don't want to misquote or paraphrase the community members, so I'd have to re-ask them, or they'd have to reply on list. GNOME Shell Extensions were discussed for solving that problem, but they ran into the upgrade problem: when a new version comes out, their workflow depreciates for a few weeks while the extension community members update to 3.8 themselves. There's also the very real fear of being left in the dust. One solution we discussed was having a set of core, popular "GNOME Shell Extensions" which would be updated along with each GNOME 3. Another was shipping more GNOME 3 beta updates to extension community members so they can update their extensions, hopefully in time, because as was pointed out, our developer story is lacking there. > Again, before replying, go read the wiki page: > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode I promise I have. > Cheers, > > Vincent > > -- > Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Jasper _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
