hi; I think I've been harsher than necessary — mostly due to my misunderstanding. it was not my intention, and I apologize for that.
On 2 April 2013 13:07, Emmanuele Bassi <eba...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 April 2013 06:45, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote: > >> We've been having some discussions in the marketing team regarding frequent >> (and valid) criticism regarding the availability of extensions after a >> release from the community at large. > > the "community at large" being...? > > also, why is marketing-list involved at all? I don't think the > marketing team should be the first line of defence when it comes to > developers and users relations — mostly because of the size of the > marketing team. I'd like to clarify this: I think the marketing team is in the right place as an interface with the GNOME community and its developers, as an extension of their work to improve the communication channels between the project and its users; I'm less sure about them having the resources to care about development issues — we do have venues for discussing (and/or bikeshedding) technical issues already. it's great to raise the issues on those venues, which Sri has done, so thanks; my feeling is that there are a *ton* of communication issues that should be addressed before the stability of the internal Shell API with regards to extension points than can effectively turn a User Experience from the current design to something that looks like GNOME 2 — in other words: with great power comes great responsibility, and that includes extension developers. ;-) this particular issue has been raised multiple times already, and it's something everyone even tangentially related to working on the shell is acutely aware of. :-) I think people take for granted, these days, the extensions in Firefox, and either weren't there or just forgot the misery that was upgrading your browser during the early days; the situation has improved *a lot*, but mostly it's just that time has stabilised the internal interfaces available to the developers of extensions — and GNOME Shell hasn't had 15 years to grow yet. my point about having a proper "developers channel" dovetails with the Testable/GnomeOS/OSTree effort, so I think a lot of the current issues with regards to QA and development churn and friction are going to be solved, or at least addressed, by that. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list