On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM, fr33domlover <[email protected]>wrote:

> No problems, GNOME having read-only mirrors can be useful to people.
>
> Just make sure there's an easy way to opt out. For example, I wouldn't
> want any of my code automatically uploaded to GitHub. I think every
> maintainer should have the right to cancel mirroring for their module.
>
> If GitHub was free software, decentralized, etc, then I could maybe
> agree that mirroring can be activated by default for existing and new
> modules. But considering the nature of GitHub, I consider it somewhat
> rude to mirror a module without letting a maintainer an option to cancel
> it, or make it disabled by default and allowing the maintainer to switch
> it on.
>

Who gets the say? What happens if there's two maintainers to a project?
What if you've contributed code to GNOME that's under a different
repository. What happens if someone manually mirrors your repository under
their own name.

It's not realistic to have an opt-out button for contributors. It's free
software, and that doesn't change whether we put it on a proprietary
platform or not.


> On ה', 2013-08-15 at 13:20 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > hi Luis;
> >
> > thanks for answering.
> >
> > On 15 August 2013 13:00, Luis Menina <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Le 15/08/2013 12:44, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> > >>> Actually, the fact that we have to ask to opt out is an issue in
> > >>> itself. We shouldn't even have to. This should have been opt in from
> > >>> the start. People (maintainers and commiters in this case) shouldn't
> > >>> have to fight to get back what you have taken away from them.
> > >>
> > >> considering that this is a mirroring system of a distributed version
> > >> control system, I'm puzzled as to what has been lost. you still have
> > >> all your rights to the software you maintain and commit to, and you
> > >> still have the right to push your work to more than one repository.
> > >> care to elaborate a bit more on this?
> > >
> > > I'm not a maintainer, but it seems to me that a maintainer may want as
> > > few entry points for patches as possible, or at least not need to poll
> > > to find patches. We already have bugzilla, or git.gnome.org. If extra
> > > clones exist and seem officially endorsed by GNOME, and there's no
> > > process to send those patches upstream, this clearly means it's up to
> > > the maintainer to poll for patches on these extra clones.
> >
> > as I said the last time the idea of a github clone was being floated
> > around, I don't want to look in multiple places for patches. nor I
> > want to get pull requests from mirrors I don't maintain directly — and
> > even then, I basically always say that if a patch is not on Bugzilla,
> > then it doesn't exist.
> >
> > the work that Alberto did, though, seem to be clear that: a) the
> > canonical place for submitting patches is Bugzilla, and b) the GitHub
> > clones are for mirroring only, so that people can easily create a
> > public fork on their own GitHub account when they wish to hack on
> > something. it is, essentially, a read-only mirror. as a maintainer, I
> > don't have a problem with exposing my code on multiple venues — that's
> > what I do already every day.
> >
> > ciao,
> >  Emmanuele.
> >
>
>
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