On 08/16/2013 05:36 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Shaun McCance <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 10:17 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
>
> There's possibly a discussion to have about whether GNOME should use
> proprietary services for outreach, but GitHub isn't really anything
> new here. In my opinion, if you feel strongly about the use of
> proprietary services for outreach, perhaps GNOME isn't the greatest
> fit for you.
What a terrible thing to say. If you disagree with some decisions,
then
you don't belong here? There's no room for diversity of opinion in our
community? That doesn't sound like the GNOME I joined ten years ago.
I'm not trying to say you can't disagree with GNOME's decisions or
talk about them, just that the way I see it, I don't see things changing.
From what I've seen over the years, I think we're more accepting of
proprietary services. We introduced GNOME Online Accounts for
integration with Gmail, Facebook, Windows Live and Twitter. We're
discussing pulling user avatars from services like Gravatar. We're
actively marketing through services like Twitter.
If you're not happy with that, we can certainly bring it up to the
board and talk about it, but from how I see things, I don't think
we'll remove GNOME Online Accounts integration or stop our Twitter
marketing campaigns. So, I'm saying that if you're not happy with
those directions, I think GNOME may not be the best place for you.
I think it is the best place for him to be, it's just that it's a bigger
fight to fight.
I don't think being able to connect to, say Google in addition to
OwnCloud in online-accounts is any different from being able to connect
to ICQ in addition to Jabber in Empathy, something that's been possible
for years.
Likewise, yes, we send status updates to twitter in addition to
identi.ca. We send it anywhere it's possible to send as it's fairly
automatic to forward things between the different services.
That said, in the past, someone had to do the work to make Jabber better
than ICQ.
I think now is a good opportunity to for everyone interested in making
something like, say, Gitorious kicking Github's ass in cheer quality to
do so.
It is outside the realm and competence of this project though, we are
busy solving the problems in our area of a free computing experience as
it is.
- Andreas
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