On Wed, May 1, 2019, 15:24 Michael Gratton <m...@vee.net> wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 14:32, Ernestas Kulik <ernest...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 21:38 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote:
> >>
> >>  After deliberately setting out to make the project more inclusive,
> >>  Python has reversed a five-year-long trend of declining number of
> >>  core
> >>  devs and it has been increasing ever since. They have for example,
> >>  in
> >>  the last three years gone from having 0 to 4 women who are core
> >> devs.
> >>
> >>  They have also been successful in getting other projects to use more
> >>  inclusive language. For example, MongoDB initially refused to stop
> >>  using the term "master", but then relented after Python did so.
> >>  GNOME
> >>  could be in a similar position of leadership here, since it's pretty
> >>  clear /someone/ needs to be the first to do the right thing to get
> >>  others moving as well.
> >
> > To make a counterpoint: The GNOME Foundation straight up hired women
> > to
> > hold positions of leadership, and I don’t remember seeing a big
> > effort
> > to become inclusive. Rather, there was “just” someone generous
> > enough
> > to donate big money that allowed to get people onboard and pay them
> > for
> > their time.
>
> You may have missed then that Outreachy started off as the GNOME
> Outreach Program for Women: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outreachy> :)
>
> The Impact section there is a particularly good read about the positive
> impact of inclusivity programs, in this case, for women.
>

That is absolutely true, it slipped my mind completely.

>
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