Kyle J. McDonald wrote at 11/28/06 14:09:
>>Thanks for sharing the info, Kyle. It is indeed a bit unusual
>>way to install and expand the system. If you could blog the detail and
>>share the link, I think that will be an interesting info for whom
>>want to do the same or similar.
>>
> 
> I can post the package add/deletes from my JS profile after I reproduce it.

That'll be wonderful information. There was some related activities called
"minimization" but I'm not quite sure whether there was any conclusion on
that. I cc'd opensolaris-discuss mailing list for possible comment from
other folks on that.


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>>Usually what people do is select a meta-cluster a bit bigger than
>>the Core such as End User and higher and customize/remove unneeded
>>packages with and during Solaris installation where dependency
>>information would be provided in more detail.
>>
> 
> Yes but removing things from the larger clusters is a pain. The dependcies 
> usually scare you out of removing things since tracking down all the other 
> packages to remove is such pain. 
> 
> Have you ever tried remoinvg the WBEM packages from SUNWCdev? Ouch.
> 
> I was hoping to get the smallest install I could, with the least baggage from 
> other packages. So I started as small as possible, and added from there.
> 
> As it is I found several dependencies trails that make no sense... Like why 
> does GNOME accessibility depend on Solaris Zones?
> 
> Or try installing XscreenSaver without GNOME - or with as little GNOME as 
> possible, pretty soon you're installing Python, TCL, TK, Accesibilty, parts 
> of Evolution, Encryption, GNOME printing, Solaris Printing packages, etc.
> 
> It's much easier to manage the dependencies while adding packages than 
> removing them.

I think either way probably has pros and cons. As I usually install entire
distribution with all locales installed, I cannot say how difficult it is
to customize your installation although I have done my shares of
customizations in the past. Due to I have some idea on Solaris clustering
and dependencies, it was quite and rather convenient to use Solaris
installation program to customize but I may (and probably) not representing
majority of the users.


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>>SUNWuiu8 which contains iconv code conversion modules and binary
>>tables belong to SUNWCutf8 cluster and the cluster belongs to SUNWCuser
>>(i.e., End User) and higher meta-clusters and statically installed when
>>such meta-clusters are chosen during the Solaris installation. I'd be
>>also personally interested in knowing what are the packages have in your
>>system before you added SUNWuiu8 and get the en_US.UTF-8 going by the way.
>>
> 
> You're right, I was mistaken when I said SUNWCutf8 wasn't referenced by any 
> of the meta clusters. And I can see why SUNWCreq and SUNWCrnet don't include 
> it.
> 
> How ever when I was adding the GNOME packages, I would have expected the 
> installer to prompt me to resolve the SUNWuiu8 depenency even if I started 
> with SUNWCrnet.
> 
> Just to clarify, Adding SUNWuiu8 didn't make en_US.UTF-8 work. I still don't 
> have en_US installed. Adding SUNWuiu8 made the 'C' Locale work without en_US.
> 
> I'll try to generate the list of packages tommorrow.

I'd be still interested to know what GNOME package(s) are
using or having the dependency to the SUNWuiu8 for C locale since
this could be a packaging bug on lacking dependency definition at
GNOME package(s) albeit minor (as SUNWCutf8 being belong to all meta-
clusters that are capable of supporting GUI desktop environment). I'm also
cc'ng desktop-discuss mailing list.


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For the past messages from Kyle, BTW, please see the following threads:

http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=18807&tstart=0
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=18722&tstart=0

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