Hi Takao,
> Personally I'd like to see this kind of discussion on
> desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org instead of the closed alias.
Thanks for your suggestion!
I'll FW further discuss to desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org.
>
> 0110.fonts is copied from /usr/dt/bin/Xsession .
> If you like to load all XLFD fonts, the order will be very important
> likes GTK1.x + pango.
>
Do you know where I can get a guide for the load order?
Regards,
William
> fujiwara
>
> Xue Wei-san wrote (06/18/09 11:51 PM):
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks for your discussed information!
>>
>> I did some test and let me summary questions and report for current
>> status.
>>
>> What I want to do?
>> Make Opensolaris could load locale specific X fonts. It will extend
>> common fonts.
>>
>>
>> Why do this?
>> X applications still have been support in Opensolaris. They need X
>> fonts(bitmap fonts) .
>>
>> For Ubuntu, the X11/bitmap fonts are put in /usr/share/fonts/X11.
>> They do not
>> support locale specific. These fonts will be load for all locales.
>>
>> Let's see benefit if we have this feature in Opensolaris:
>> 1. User could customize more locale specific X fonts if they want.
>>
>> 2. Do not need load a specific fonts(such like Chinese fonts only
>> for Chinese locale)
>> for very locale.
>>
>> 3. Sun have many bitmap fonts which we bought, but they have been
>> remove with /usr/openwin.
>> (Most of them have been put under /usr/openwin/lib/locale/${locale}/...)
>> Opensolaris closed net repository is building up. If it done, we
>> could put these fonts for download.
>> Then, they could be used by specific locale. It will do not need
>> load a fonts for all locale.
>> I believe this should be a new feature, and there is no doubt it
>> would improve user experience
>> on looking fonts feeling.
>>
>> (I guess Takao-San was also aware this issue, so he add
>> xinitrc.d/0110.fonts on Nevada.)
>>
>>
>> How to do it?
>> There are tow optional script to add fonts path according locale:
>> /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default
>> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/0110.fonts
>>
>> I tested these two script for several login situation. From the result,
>> I found the issue for each of above two script.
>>
>> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/0110.fonts can not run in case :
>> Choose failsafe terminal, when you login and launch xterm. xinitrc.d
>> have not run.
>>
>> /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default >can not run in case: If you user choose a
>> new language, but do not restart greeter, login to desktop directly.
>> >If you set a language which is not system default language as user
>> default language. It could run, but get wrong
>> locale value. for example: system default language is English
>> (greeter display in English), but user set Chinese
>> as user desktop default locale. When user start PC, the Init/Default
>> will get system default locale English, but
>> actually when user login to desktop, it is in Chinese locale.
>>
>> Suggest solution:
>> > Create a X fonts path locale script like 0110.fonts, it could get
>> locale and set locale specific X fonts path.
>> > Create a evn variable in XFONT_LOCALE to record the specific locale.
>> > Let Init/Default call set_fonts_path script, and set current
>> locale to XFONT_LOCALE.
>> > In xinit/xinitrc.d/0110.fonts, Check XFONT_LOCALE, if it is NULL,
>> or not same with current
>> locale value, cleanup current locale specific X fonts path. and
>> re-set it according to current locale.
>>
>>
>> Btw, gdm greeter is gtk app, it seems use truetype fonts which config
>> by fontconfig. Set X locale specific fonts
>> when greeter startup is for user who launch X terminal session.
>>
>>
>> Could anyone please give any comment/question/suggestion?
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Regards,
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Coopersmith ??:
>>> Mike Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Updating Init file would be wrong as it's used in community. We have
>>>>> xinitrc.d/0110.fonts
>>>>> Your contact should be harry.fu at sun.com
>>>>>
>>>> If you need to set the font path that will be available to the greeter
>>>> then Init is your only option. xinitrc.d/* scripts don't get executed
>>>> until after the login has succeeded, and AFAIK the GDM greeter has no
>>>> built-in support for locale-dependent font management.
>>>>
>>>> It's true that the Init/Default script in OpenSolaris (and in Solaris)
>>>> is derived from the community version. That doesn't necessarily mean
>>>> that we can't change it, but it would be a good idea to first check
>>>> with Brian Cameron to see whether he knows of a better way to handle
>>>> locale-related font issues and whether he is aware of any effort in
>>>> the community to deal with this issue.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that this would be a problem that all distros must
>>>> face, so if there's no existing solution I wouldn't be at all
>>>> surprised if the community was willing (even eager) to accept a
>>>> contribution from Sun to address the issue.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or they'd ask why we're still wasting time supporting Motif & Xaw apps,
>>> (especially in the limited set of apps that can be run before the user
>>> session starts), since GTK+ & Qt apps don't use the X font path, just
>>> fontconfig.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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