On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 17:02 -0500, James Cornell wrote: > I look at operating systems as a tool, to get a job done. It all > depends on your industry and expectations, but in the end most people > are at the end of the creek without a say. Who's to blame exactly? > As > you've said well, it's all the ISV's and Adobe's of the world. I do > not > care about Microsoft's monopoly in the traditional "It's bad" sense, > their company is huge and some of their products they really do try > on. > I certainly like competition and good products, but given poor > support > from Adobe, it might as well be tied at the hip to Windows, at least > it > works there. Maybe they're strained with their 6,677 employees...
True, but from what I understand, there is very little forward thinking (as outlined by their Mac stratergy). As I said previously, I don't mind them being a Windows only company - what I do mind is when I have to put up with them (along with other third parties) whinging and whining that Microsoft is taking them to the cleaners whilst ignoring that people don't run operating systems - operating systems are merely a platform to run applications. Without third party support, Windows would be nothing. > Their Mac versions are always less performant than Windows > counterparts, > and their update system is a joke, it's extremely painful even on the > most robust hardware. Their refusal to migrate to the Cocoa > framework > has left them in the dust for 64-bit support on Mac OS X, they had > years > to switch to XCode, and years to rewrite at least a few of their key > applications in Cocoa, which would had been easy to migrate to be > 64-bit > compliant. Funny since Macs seem to be pushing the whole 64-bit > computing thing faster than Windows, since they offer a solution > which > is easier to support, Adobe just set Apple back a few years by making > it > a useless effort, the whole switch was mainly beneficial to Adobe as > far > as consumers go. Carbon was not designed to be around this long, and > they could have easily kept most of their internal code compatible, > Objective-C is just a small layer, it supports regular C being > embedded, > you don't need to make it all fancy with IPC plumbing. You need to > only > redo the interface, which is already designed, and make it > into .nibs, > an .xml-like interface format. With all those employees they still > say > it won't be until CS5 before that will even be remotely possible. > The > look for Linux and Solaris is grim given the above. Same situation with Microsoft Office; ever year Steve would get up, talk about XCode the future - to move to XCode, XCode this and XCode that; he hardly made it a secret that as developers, you should move to XCode, then we have idiots like Microsoft and Adobe claim it was 'all news' to them. > They have this untold love for reusing the same garbage for decades, > it's no wonder they are too lazy and uncompromising even with their 3 > billion yearly revenue to make anything available with feature parity > to > even Macs, which at least have a confirmed user base, something for > their idiot marketing staff to look at, it's something around 60 > million > units which is something to sneeze beachballs at, when the Linux user > share is only confirmed for desktops at around 0.58%. They may be > 10-14 > million desktops, who knows, Sun can at least keep track of their > installs, their download system makes it necessary, but it seems that > Adobe doesn't care even though I'm sure Sun would be willing to give > them the statistics. The problem is, however, that Adobe also refuses to take money from companies to get software made available for a said platform. > I agree on Moonlight, at least from my experience with Silverlight on > OSX it works and doesn't crash everything. The main problem as it > has > been with both Microsoft and Adobe isn't with the client support > exactly, it's their tools which establish the lock-in, see Flash and > Acrobat, two very cross-platform technologies, see Air or Expression > Design/Web/Blend all tied chiefly to Windows, as first class > citizens. > If any of those were available to other platforms they would be betas > for a few years, and be extremely out of sync. Flash and Acrobat cross platform? With flash, you're locked into Adobe being the sole provider of the plugin; I'd call that plugin. Now, Acrobat is a different matter mind you, but compared to XPS, its hardly free given Adobes attitude to opensource so far. > The only product from Microsoft outside of the Office department for > OS > X is Expression Media, an overpriced and gimped version of the > Windows > counterpart, which is only on Macs because modern creative studios > have > at least a few of them, and Digital Media Management is a niche, they > took advantage of their market because there was nothing integrated > like > it on the Mac platform, probably because no body needs it, but > Microsoft > being Microsoft of course wasted effort in porting something touching > it > up to seem almost native, but still ugly, then slapped it in a box > and > yelled out loud like a gorilla in the room and said "Look what I have > created!" and thus the whole building burns down because these two > individuals are probably stuck on stupid. Ending with a quote: "You > can't fix stupid" - Ron White True, I remember using it. Its plain awful and a pointless application which in the end I couldn't even work out what the point of it was for. Matthew
