> > Will Sun make the Shared Shell server available?
>  I
>  wouldn't want to burden Sun's system unnecessarily.
> 
> Sun doesn't have immediate plans to open source
> Shared Shel, but
> it's a possibility.
> 
> Shared Shell is mostly independent of Sun's
> infrastructure, but there are a few things, like
> authentication that are tightly coupled. (And we're
> working on other dependent features, like integration
> with our services case management system.)
> 
> If there's a community interested in building a
> Shared Shell open source, I'm
> very interested in the discussion.  It would be very
> cool to see Shared Shell evolve
> into a widely-used, well-accepted, collaborative
> support technology.
> 
> Thanks,
> Wayne Seltzer
> Shared Shell Product Manager
> Sun Microsystems


There seems to be a pattern here: Sun internal tools, that with perhaps
a bit of additional generality, polish, and documentation, might be widely
useable.  Not five minutes ago, I read something in opensolaris-discuss about
"punchin" (VPN).  Then there's CTF support: right now, a kernel thing used
mostly by dtrace (I guess), without support in the compiler suite (although
someone mentioned that DWARF can be made more compact than stabs,
so perhaps there's some evolution yet to take place?).

Lots of cool ideas, but too few of them seeing the full light of day, or
becoming widely usable perhaps because of decoupling between various units.

You're considering whether what you're responsible for might represent a
significant opportunity.  Great!  We need more of that, IMO.

As for collaborative access of that sort, IIRC SunForum used to do not only
videoconferencing, but a shared desktop as well.  Now that it is gone,
AFAIK gnomemeeting doesn't do that; one can sort of do some of it with VNC,
but not as good.  At one time, I think HP had some pretty cool stuff layered on
top of X, but I don't think it's open.  Maybe xrdp + tsclient/rdesktop can pick
up most of the T.128/RDP functionality that SunForum used to have.  But there
will always be niches in this sort of thing; and I don't doubt plenty of folks 
would
be glad for a remote command line assistance facility, _if_ they could point it
at an internal server rather than someone else's (and indeed, on an isolated 
network,
that might be the only possibility).
 
 
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