@Rachel Greenham: I couldn't agree more with you. We need to solve one single issue first: show the global menu all the time, then proceed with caution for any other options.
Just a few comments/suggestion on the main and secondary issues: - Showing global menu permanently will hide the title of the window. I'd suggest it to be shown whenever the mouse goes to the top of the screen anywhere where there's no menu: for instance, the top-left corner. Throwing the mouse there will do two things: show the title and position the mouse over the close-window button. But throwing the mouse to the top of the screen to the right of the menu (maybe including the indicators area), will reveal the window title. Regarding LIMs: > what to do about important window-title text especially if there's a no-autohide option - A similar aproach to what I suggested above: reveal the window title whenever the mouse is over non-menu areas (and of course by pushing a certain key, such as Shift, Ctrl, Alt, etc.) > what to do when the window gets narrower than the menu... - Whatever has been done for 20+ years with the classic menu bar in the window. This is not a new problem. The problem I can see arising with menus on the title-bar is how to grab the window for moving it around. But AGAIN: the primary concern NOW is having the global menu permanently visible. It's a serious usability issue that needs urgent attention. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity menus Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Committed Status in Compiz: Triaged Status in Unity: Triaged Status in “compiz” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed Bug description: ===+++ _____________________ ! ALL USERS ! _____________________ +++=== ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++=== IMPORTANT 1: Please don't post any "me too message"; use the "Does this bug affect you?" feature you can find a bit above this bug description on Launchpad. IMPORTANT 2: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from doing that. ========= Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. A commonly suggested solution is: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Global Menu only for maximized windows The default is usually suggested as either the first (on) or last (on only for maximized windows). ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

