Thanks for your time and explanations Dylan. Obviously we disagree on some aspects, I'm not going to answer in too long here because you're right on one point : a bug reporting tool is not a web forum, so this is surely not the right place for arguing for pages.
So I'm first being more specific just on a short technical point : About the DM. Previous Ubuntu releases did not have a config tool for choosing WHICH DM to use (you're right) but they DID have a config tool to configure HOW the default DM (which was GDM) behaved, i.e.: - Should we list the existing users and let the user click, or have the user type the username ? - Should we have autologin for a given user name ? - After some timeout or immediately ? - Etc. This DID exist in Natty Control Panel and previously. This has disappeared in Oneiric. About the fact of having to file several separate bug reports for all this, OTOH, I strongly disagree with you. IMHO the "Control Panel" is ONE thing, seing it having lost 80% of its contents is ONE issue. Thus ONE bug report - even though every single lost icon could be considered separately, seing an almost empty control panel where it used to be pretty full and complete is ONE issue from a user (not a developper) standpoint. Developpers can ask users to cooperate and file bug reports. Users like myself do spend much time beta-testing stuff and filing bug reports (which doesn't always receive wife-approval ;-) - for the good of all the Ubuntu community. But once a bug report is filed, it's extremely demotivating, as the bug reporter, to be told "so instead of one bug report about this, please file 3 others about this, that, and there". As a (stupid) user, I find an issue, I report the issue. If I'm asked for more precisions, logs, screenshots, I'll give them happily. But it's definitely not the user's business to sort things out further. It's a developper's issue, it's a distro maintainer's issue, etc, to dispatch a given existing bug report into pieces if needed. The user has no clue - and doesn't need to have any - in the way the engine is built. So IMHO an almost empty Control Panel is ONE issue. Please feel free to dispatch it into several sub-issues if you feel so, but don't tell me this report is invalid in itself. Kind regards. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/858888 Title: [Oneiric] Poor man's control center Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Upgrading from Natty to Oneiric, and furthermore, comparing Natty and Oneiric's machines, it's really impressive to notice how many features have been lost in Gnome's Control Center, making Oneiric's one truly a "Poor man's control center". For example : - No Screen Saver config in Oneiric (this one misses SO MUCH !) - No Connection Window DM (GDM/LightDM...) config in Oneiric - No Remote Desktop config icon... - No "personal network shares" icon... - No CompizConfig integration... - No HD utility icon... - No Gparted icon... - No Synaptic / Package manager icon... - No system monitor icon... - No Computer janitor icon... - No Network tools icon... - No logs viewer icon... - No password and keys management icon... Many icons lead to poor or incomplete panels (energy / screen are very poor...) So WTF is left ? Is this the new iPad control panel or whatever ? OTOH: - The default applications are set in a completely stupid place ("System Information") And OTOH: - 2 different "Keyboard" and "Keyboard layout" icons in 2 different sections of Oneiric's CC: Makes no sense - 2 "Ubuntu One" icons in Oneiric's CC: why not three ? And OTOH: - "Displays" and "Startup Applications" have migrated into the User Menu, where they have nothing to do (and will be very rarely used for most people except executives using videoprojectors for presentations, most of which don't use Linux anyway...) so we congest and clutter a menu with useless stuff for no reason. What a mess ! ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: gnome-control-center 1:3.1.92-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-11.18-generic 3.0.4 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-11-generic i686 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1 Architecture: i386 CheckboxSubmission: 1ea6109db29b53f721a523a77b7f3abf CheckboxSystem: d00f84de8a555815fa1c4660280da308 Date: Sun Sep 25 15:01:09 2011 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_US:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gnome-control-center UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-09-04 (20 days ago) usr_lib_gnome-control-center: deja-dup 19.92-0ubuntu2 gnome-bluetooth 3.1.92-0ubuntu1 indicator-datetime 0.2.95-0ubuntu1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/858888/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
