@Sebastien: I tried to refrain from commenting on this aspect, but it indeed made me think a lot. On one hand, I totally agree with you (myself also being a developer/contributor to open source). On the other hand, I share the frustration of many users, and I'm also quite disappointed on how such a complex and crucial bug could be slipped into a release and I share their opinion that the progress is way slower than it should be.
Is there a way you could please point me to documentation/guidelines how such bugs could slip into the distro, how such bugreports and prioritized/handled, what kind of QA process lets a distro ship with such a bug, whether the QA process will be revised to make sure such critical bug can't go into the distro in the future? I'd like to be sure that it's safe for me to stay with Ubuntu, but if there'll be one more release with such a critical bug, I'll just have to look for a different distribution. I'm not trying to offend anyone or criticize anything, but I'd like to know if what Ubuntu is able to offer to me is the best match for what I'm looking for, and right now I'm in serious doubt. In short: are there any *conclusions* drawn from this bug that'll help future Ubuntu releases become better? I can't help to mention that the application I use the most frequently is gnome-terminal, where Ubuntu ships a quite old version, for exactly one reason: updating to a newer one requires shell work (touching /etc/profile or similar) to keep the convenience feature that new tabs open in the working directory of the current tab. Something that shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to solve, and even users can do it for themselves, still the distro couldn't yet solve it. I wonder: if such a trivial and easily workarounded issue is a blocker for a version update of gnome-terminal, how come that totally breaking the keyboard wasn't a blocker for the update of those components??? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218322 Title: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc. Status in Gnome Settings Daemon: Invalid Status in Ubuntu GNOME: Confirmed Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” source package in Saucy: Triaged Bug description: A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/1218322. There still remain issues regarding keyboard shortcuts though. To install: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/1218322 sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade === gnome-control-center === Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work Test case: - open gnome-control-center's text input settings - click on the "next layout key" entry - try entering a key combinaison (e.g ctrl-space) -> the UI should reflect the new keys Regression potential: that UI was not working before, it should only be an improvement (some key combos are not working as expected, that's another issue and shouldn't be mixed with this one) === gnome-settings-daemon === Impact: attempting to change keyboard layouts using only modifier keys doesn't work Test case: - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry settings - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source "['<Primary>Shift_L']" - press and release ctrl+left shift -> the current input source should change Regression potential: The input switching shortcut might capture other non-modifier shortcuts, but users will need to consider this when choosing their switching shortcut anyways. For users this bug affects, this represents a working solution for a critical bug. ---------------------- Test results for different keyboard layout change hotkeys may be viewed and added in the Google Docs table, created by Norbert (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVE&usp=sharing). ---------------------- Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey combinations: Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space: * Unity greeter (bug 1245137); * Unity session (bug 1245136); * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245138, bug 1245256); * ubiquity installer (bug 1242572). Alt+Shift: * Unity greeter (bug 1245258) * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift (bug 1245926) Ctrl+Shift: * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245270) * Unity greeter (bug 1245268) * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991) * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656) Shift+Shift: * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift (bug 1245272) * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245278) * Unity greeter (bug 1245280) Bugs which belong to keyboard layout switching: * Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout in 13.10 (bug 1226962) * Keyboard Layout Options window is missed in gnome-control-center keyboard (bug 1245064) * Unable to set keyboard LED to show alternative layout in gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245188) * Unable to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245199) * Keyboard shortcut for changing keyboard layout does not work on lock screen (bug 1244548) * [FFe] indicator-keyboard not working under greeter (bug 1228207) * Lost ability to remap Caps Lock to Ctrl (bug 1215826) * gnome-control-center keyboard no longer has way to modify caps lock key behavior (bug 1224575) * Pressing Caps Lock toggles LED even when mapped to another key (bug 1221403) * Switching layout turns off NumLock (bug 1247668) ---------------------- Can't set keyboard layout change to ctrl+shift, Caps Lock, alt+shift etc. "Shift", "CapsLock" keys are just ignored in settings. Also the default shortcut was set to "Super+Space" that is inconveniently, because Dash is opening when you swich your keyboard layout. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: indicator-keyboard 0.0.0+13.10.20130829.1-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-2.5-generic 3.11.0-rc5 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-2-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.12.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Aug 29 14:21:54 2013 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-07-31 (28 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha amd64 (20130730) MarkForUpload: True ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=ru_UA:ru PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set> LANG=ru_UA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: indicator-keyboard UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1218322/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
