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On 2015-11-26T12:24:27+00:00 Pierre wrote:

Applications such as vncviewer[1] have the option of grabbing the
keyboard in order to be able to send all keyboard input to a remote
system, even if the window manager would like to reserve some things for
itself. This is no longer possible when these applications are running
under XWayland.

I know this is currently per design in the Wayland protocol, but it is
something that needs to be handled somehow.

[1] Boxes, virt-manager and such should also be affected

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On 2015-11-26T13:01:11+00:00 Kamil wrote:

In virt-manager, I can't send Win key to the client, it always triggers
overview mode in the host. That's probably caused by the same issue.

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On 2015-11-27T12:47:50+00:00 Sean wrote:

VirtualBox also suffers from this issue; it makes using my Windows 98 VM
really painful.

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On 2015-12-16T13:51:15+00:00 Olivier wrote:

I think this is pretty much the desired behaviour, Wayland was designed
with security in mind an no Wayland client can grab the keyboard
exclusively.

An X11 application running on Xwayland in Wayland is no different, it
cannot "steal" keyboard events from native Wayland applications.

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On 2015-12-17T09:54:30+00:00 Kamil wrote:

OK, so IIUIC, this issue should be moved to Wayland, it's not XWayland
specific. Thanks for info, Olivier. Is there some solution being worked
on or proposed, or is there nothing like that planned?

In my experience, not only I can't send Win key to a VM, I can't even
send Alt+Tab or Win+Tab. Which makes controlling it somewhat
inconvenient. I assume the same issues will be present in vncviewer and
other remote desktop solutions (which might be even more inconvenient,
if you're used to work remotely often or for long periods of time).

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On 2016-07-05T17:29:06+00:00 Rubén wrote:

Hello.

There must be a workaround that doesnt' compromise security nor violates
design requisites. I need to connect to my office computer at work from
my home via a Windows 10 virtual machine with Boxes and it's really
cumbersome!

Fedora 24.

Thank you!

Regards.

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On 2016-07-19T07:15:03+00:00 Christian wrote:

According to [1] this bug is being handled upstream at freedesktop.org by 
wayland devs. They are adding protocol extensions to wayland:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/tree/unstable/pointer-constraints/pointer-constraints-unstable-v1.xml
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/tree/unstable/relative-pointer/relative-pointer-unstable-v1.xml

[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/BBPOOC4GVBJXHLKSSFLGERG6GYAU6M6U/

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On 2016-07-19T07:31:41+00:00 Pierre wrote:

Those references only covers grabbing the pointer, not the keyboard.

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On 2016-07-21T15:37:49+00:00 Christian wrote:

(In reply to Sean Young from comment #2)
> VirtualBox also suffers from this issue; it makes using my Windows 98 VM
> really painful.

Made my day ;)

(In reply to Christian Stadelmann from comment #6)
> According to [1] this bug is being handled upstream at freedesktop.org by
> wayland devs. They are adding protocol extensions to wayland:
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/tree/unstable/pointer-
> constraints/pointer-constraints-unstable-v1.xml
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/tree/unstable/
> relative-pointer/relative-pointer-unstable-v1.xml
> 
> [1]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected].
> org/thread/BBPOOC4GVBJXHLKSSFLGERG6GYAU6M6U/

(In reply to Pierre Ossman from comment #7)
> Those references only covers grabbing the pointer, not the keyboard.

You are right, upstream just handles mouse, not keyboard.

Nothing relevant on
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/BBPOOC4GVBJXHLKSSFLGERG6GYAU6M6U/
or https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel either.

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On 2016-07-21T21:17:31+00:00 IanB wrote:

*** Bug 1353422 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2016-08-13T16:20:57+00:00 Christian wrote:

I've filed an upstream bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97333

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On 2016-09-01T07:02:56+00:00 Olivier wrote:

(In reply to Kamil Páral from comment #4)
> OK, so IIUIC, this issue should be moved to Wayland, it's not XWayland
> specific. Thanks for info, Olivier. Is there some solution being worked on
> or proposed, or is there nothing like that planned?

See also https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-
devel/2016-August/030863.html

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On 2016-12-11T16:19:52+00:00 Dimitrios wrote:

Just letting you know that this is still valid bug.

I hit this bug after upgrading to Fedora 25. I logged in Wayland GNOME
session (I was a user of X GNOME), and I can no longer fully control a
remote desktop via VNC, using the Remmina VNC client: alt-tab, windows
key etc shortcuts are all captured by the local desktop, even when I've
set the remote one to full screen with full keyboard grab. This makes
work very painful, so I'll have to revert back to the non-default X
GNOME session.

Regarding the "security feature" argument that I've heard, I don't see
it, as long as I give permission for keyboard grab by explicitly
selecting it and possibly answering some dialog box. Apparently I
wouldn't like random applications listening to all my keyboard events,
but this is not the case here.

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On 2016-12-30T16:27:34+00:00 Scott wrote:

Similar experience after upgrading from 24 -> 25, the Remmina clipboard
sync no longer works. I expect this has something to to with Wayland and
the isolation of the windows, but have not yet looked into that.

Fedora 25
Remmina 1.2.0-rcgit-15 (1.2.0-0.23.20160914git42f5a87.fc25)

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On 2017-01-08T22:08:23+00:00 Lucas wrote:

I confirm this bug using the freerdp client to connect to Windows remote
desktop session. All Windows keyboard shortcuts (alt-tab, Windows-e,
etc. are not sent to the remote desktop but to the local host instead.

Fedora 25
freerdp-2.0.0-12.20160909git1855e36.fc25.x86_64

In my experience, this bug effectively makes it impossible, or at least
highly impractical, to use a Windows remote desktop under Wayland.

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On 2017-01-09T13:10:03+00:00 Kamil wrote:

Thanks, no more confirmations are needed. We know this is simply not
implemented yet. If you need this, please use the X11 session until this
is fixed.

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On 2017-01-09T14:48:54+00:00 Pierre wrote:

I don't think that was the right gnome bug number. :)

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On 2017-01-09T15:03:30+00:00 Kamil wrote:

Ugh, thanks. Wrong tracker.

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On 2017-03-03T12:27:50+00:00 Andrey wrote:

The same problem when using Remmina and VMware-view Horizon.

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On 2017-03-23T14:21:53+00:00 Olivier wrote:

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-
devel/2017-March/033526.html

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On 2017-03-27T10:38:18+00:00 Pierre wrote:

Nice to see this progressing. :)

Just a quick note, override redirect is the old way of fullscreen on X11
and a lot of well behaved applications ask the window manager instead.
So I guess Xwayland may need support for both extensions depending on
how well behaved the application is?

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On 2017-03-27T11:32:33+00:00 Olivier wrote:

(In reply to Pierre Ossman from comment #21)
> Nice to see this progressing. :)
> 
> Just a quick note, override redirect is the old way of fullscreen on X11 and
> a lot of well behaved applications ask the window manager instead. So I
> guess Xwayland may need support for both extensions depending on how well
> behaved the application is?

That's unrelated, this is about adding a mechanism to "emulate" grabs on
Wayland, the window being O-R is just a case of where there is no
workaround.

But "well behaved" X11 applications asking for fullscreen using EWMH
already work fine and certainly do not need this mechanism.

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On 2017-03-27T14:11:10+00:00 Pierre wrote:

It sounded like one of your (two) grab extensions was specifically for
O-R windows? Fullscreen via EWMH should be able to make do using the
other proposed Wayland extension.

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On 2017-03-28T07:10:35+00:00 Olivier wrote:

(In reply to Pierre Ossman from comment #23)
> It sounded like one of your (two) grab extensions was specifically for O-R
> windows?

That's correct.

> Fullscreen via EWMH should be able to make do using the other
> proposed Wayland extension.

Maybe you should take this discussion on the thread upstream where this
would be more appropriate than in a downstream bugzilla.

On Wayland, an X11 application running on Xwayland uses the "regular"
X11 window manager which implements EWMH, it does not need any specific
Wayland protocol for that, it just uses the good ol' X11 protocols.

See https://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html

For example, on GNOME, mutter plays the role of Wayland compositor and
X11 window manager, and mutter/gnome-shell itself relies heavily on
X11/Xwayland even when running as a Wayland compositor. An X11 client
wishing to map its X11 window fullscreen using EWMH does not need an
O-R, it just sents the relevant WM hint on the window and the X11 window
manager will map that window fullscreen if applicable.

The protocol for Xwayland I sent upstream is for O-R windows, those are
not focused by X11 window managers (basically they are mostly ignored by
X11 window managers, by definition, even if that's not true with
compositor managers which need to draw them), so that an X11 client
issuing a grab on its X11 window will never get the keyboard focus when
running on Xwayland because Wayland does not have any grab mechanism to
match the X11 grabbing protocol.

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On 2017-03-28T07:33:19+00:00 Olivier wrote:

And to clear up any misunderstanding, there is nothing neither in the
protocol nor in the sample implementation I made which is specific for
O-R windows in any way, it's just that the protocols is necessary for
O-R window *because* they aren't focused by X11 window managers.

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On 2017-04-27T20:29:36+00:00 David wrote:

Adding myself to the CC list, and while here, I should add, the
situation is worse still if another layer of indirection is involved. If
I run virt-viewer or virt-manager as a remote X client under Xwayland,
no keyboard events at all make it to the VM.

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On 2017-05-16T05:13:20+00:00 Attila wrote:

I have issues only when using virt-viewer/virt-manager over ssh (from
Fedora25). Simple workaround is to install virt-manager on your host and
add the other Qemu/KVM servers as a new connection. Did the magic for
me.

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-
US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide
/sect-Virtualization-
Managing_guests_with_the_Virtual_Machine_Manager_virt_manager-
The_open_connection_window.html

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-
US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide
/chap-Virtualization_Administration_Guide-
Remote_management_of_virtualized_guests.html

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On 2017-10-10T14:35:29+00:00 Olivier wrote:

Fixed with native Wayland apps, x11 fix pending review/merge.

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** Changed in: wayland (Fedora)
       Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: wayland (Fedora)
   Importance: Unknown => Undecided

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Title:
  Keys can't be grabbed under Wayland

Status in remmina:
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Status in wayland:
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Status in remmina package in Ubuntu:
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Status in wayland package in Fedora:
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Bug description:
  Special keys are not working under Remmina.

  Seems to be a Wayland specification and implementation of that
  specification.

  This bug could embrace all apps that need this behavior (VirtualBox,
  vncviewer, etc)

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
  Package: remmina 1.1.2-4ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.11.0-10.15-generic 4.11.8
  Uname: Linux 4.11.0-10-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.5-0ubuntu5
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: GNOME
  Date: Mon Jul 17 15:36:36 2017
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-07-04 (13 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Alpha amd64 (20170626)
  SourcePackage: remmina
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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