** Description changed: - The docs give an incorrect or at least incomplete and misleading + The docs seem to give an incorrect or at least incomplete and misleading description: "The on-screen keyboard is automatically enabled if you use a touchscreen 1. Open the Activities overview and start typing Universal Access. 2. Click on Universal Access to open the panel. 3. Switch on Screen Keyboard in the Typing section. When you next have the opportunity to type, the on-screen keyboard will open at the bottom of the screen." -- https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-osk.html The Gnome 3.28 release notes say something different, but this is also incorrect: "The new keyboard automatically activates when a text area is selected, ..." -- https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.28/ - * It is not necessary to activate it in Universal access. - * The keyboard does not always automatically activate when selecting a text area. - * It can be summoned in Wayland by swiping up on a touch screen, but this does not work in the default X session. There is no known way to summon it in X if selecting a text widget does not automatically bring it up, which is a common situation. + As far as I can tell the behavior is the same in X session and Wayland + session, with the one important difference that there is no way to + manually activate the OSK in X. - The situation is still the same in Cosmic. This documentation bug is + * Neither in X nor in Wayland does the keyboard always automatically + activate when selecting a text area. + + * As far as I can tell is not necessary to activate it in Universal + Access either in X or Wayland. If I enable it, I can see no difference + in the reliability of auto activation. E.g., in the Activities search + box it auto activates in either case (Wayland or X, activated in + Universal Access or not). If it does not auto activate, e.g. in Gnome + apps like gnome-terminal or gedit, or in non-Gnome like Firefox, + enabling it in UA does not help either. + + * It can be summoned in Wayland by swiping up on a touch screen, but + this does not work in X. There is no known way to manually activate it + in X. (A gnome-shell extension exists but does not work with Gnome 3.28 + or 3.30. Also there should be no need to hunt for an unofficial + extension for this basic functionality) + + The situation is still the same in Cosmic. This documentation issue is particularly troublesome because even in the best case, Wayland, there is no UI hint for how to summon it, and it is difficult to discover. There are several questions on Askubuntu and the answers that existed so - far show that basically no-one understood the whole story. (I added - answers just now) + far show that basically no-one understood the whole story (for links see + my other bug report on discoverability, below) - For a more detailed description I refer you to my comment on the bug - report, "New On-screen keyboard cannot be manually triggered to appear": + I also refer you to my comments on the bug report, "New On-screen + keyboard cannot be manually triggered to appear": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1760399/comments/10 - New bug report for discoverability: + New bug report for poor discoverability of swiping up in Wayland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1791551 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: ubuntu-docs 18.04.4 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-34.37-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-34-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: wl nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sun Sep 9 22:47:11 2018 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-09-15 (2185 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Release amd64 (20120823.1) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: ubuntu-docs UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to bionic on 2018-04-08 (154 days ago)
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-user-docs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791548 Title: Incorrect description for activation of new on-screen keyboard with Gnome 3.28 (Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS) and 3.30 (Ubuntu Cosmic 18.10) Status in gnome-user-docs package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: The docs seem to give an incorrect or at least incomplete and misleading description: "The on-screen keyboard is automatically enabled if you use a touchscreen 1. Open the Activities overview and start typing Universal Access. 2. Click on Universal Access to open the panel. 3. Switch on Screen Keyboard in the Typing section. When you next have the opportunity to type, the on-screen keyboard will open at the bottom of the screen." -- https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-osk.html The Gnome 3.28 release notes say something different, but this is also incorrect: "The new keyboard automatically activates when a text area is selected, ..." -- https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.28/ As far as I can tell the behavior is the same in X session and Wayland session, with the one important difference that there is no way to manually activate the OSK in X. * Neither in X nor in Wayland does the keyboard always automatically activate when selecting a text area. * As far as I can tell is not necessary to activate it in Universal Access either in X or Wayland. If I enable it, I can see no difference in the reliability of auto activation. E.g., in the Activities search box it auto activates in either case (Wayland or X, activated in Universal Access or not). If it does not auto activate, e.g. in Gnome apps like gnome-terminal or gedit, or in non-Gnome like Firefox, enabling it in UA does not help either. * It can be summoned in Wayland by swiping up on a touch screen, but this does not work in X. There is no known way to manually activate it in X. (A gnome-shell extension exists but does not work with Gnome 3.28 or 3.30. Also there should be no need to hunt for an unofficial extension for this basic functionality) The situation is still the same in Cosmic. This documentation issue is particularly troublesome because even in the best case, Wayland, there is no UI hint for how to summon it, and it is difficult to discover. There are several questions on Askubuntu and the answers that existed so far show that basically no-one understood the whole story (for links see my other bug report on discoverability, below) I also refer you to my comments on the bug report, "New On-screen keyboard cannot be manually triggered to appear": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1760399/comments/10 New bug report for poor discoverability of swiping up in Wayland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1791551 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: ubuntu-docs 18.04.4 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-34.37-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-34-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: wl nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sun Sep 9 22:47:11 2018 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-09-15 (2185 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Release amd64 (20120823.1) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: ubuntu-docs UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to bionic on 2018-04-08 (154 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/1791548/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

