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On 2016-10-19T12:40:02+00:00 Bill Gianopoulos wrote:

Under both Aurora and nightly ACID3 test 35 is failing with this error:

Test 35 failed: expected '0' but got '1' - root element, with no parent
node, claims to be a :first-child

Current relase and Beta are NOT affected.

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On 2016-10-19T13:02:07+00:00 Bill Gianopoulos wrote:

This fails under WIndows as well.

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On 2016-10-19T14:41:19+00:00 Mats-l wrote:

Is this an intentional change from bug 1300374?

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On 2016-10-19T14:46:30+00:00 Bill Gianopoulos wrote:

(In reply to Mats Palmgren (:mats) from comment #2)
> Is this an intentional change from bug 1300374?

If this is an intentional change, and the reasons for the change are
legitimate, then we should ask to have the test changed.  That said,
Google Chrome still gets 100% on this test.  I will try backing out that
change to see how it impacts the test results.

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On 2016-10-19T15:14:15+00:00 Bill Gianopoulos wrote:

I have verified that restoring this code:

if (!parent) {
    return false;
}

from edgeChildMatches

which was removed by the patch for bug 1300374 does restore the 100%
result in the Acid3 test.

I also wonder why this was not known , if it was not, because I thought
we included the Acid3 test in the our test suite.

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On 2016-10-19T15:20:58+00:00 B-emilio wrote:

Yes, this is intentional, since the spec changed. If it breaks stuff we
can of course restore the old behavior (though I won't say Acid3 is
representative of actual content, and this is the first report related
to that bug AFAIK).

I think we should get the test changed, but I don't know how feasible is
it.

Also, no, I don't think we include Acid3 in our test suite (otherwise
that patch would've never landed).

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On 2016-10-19T15:51:11+00:00 Ms2ger wrote:

Fixing Acid3 has historically not been an issue. I asked Hixie
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2016Oct/0005.html>.

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On 2016-10-21T02:29:02+00:00 Bmo-7 wrote:

(In reply to Emilio Cobos Álvarez [:emilio] from comment #5)
> I think we should get the test changed, but I don't know how feasible is it.
Will this change cause any webcompat issue here between Blink and us ? 
Following the spec is correct but still concerned about breakage of any 
websites due to compatibility issues.

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On 2016-10-21T08:52:43+00:00 B-emilio wrote:

Hi Astley,

As I said before, I don't think Acid3 is representative of actual
content, so I don't think sites rely on this.

That being said, yes, it's a difference, but this is the first report
related to that change in two months, and it's in a fairly artificial
test.

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On 2016-10-24T13:35:11+00:00 Bmo-7 wrote:

So could we change to Tech Evangelism team to help the fix on ACID3 test
cases?

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On 2016-10-24T16:10:48+00:00 Ms2ger wrote:

No need. I'll try to poke again this week.

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On 2016-10-24T16:18:05+00:00 Bill Gianopoulos wrote:

Problem is what to recommend doing with the test.  I would hate to have
another test out of this suite end up being an everyone passes, yet if
we change the test to expect the new behavior and make the old behavior
fail, we end up needing to uplift bug 1300374 everywhere including ESR,
otherwise we end up with release builds failing ACID3.  I am sure other
browser vendors are int he same boat here.  Permitting both behaviors is
kind of the same as making it an everyone passes test.  Can we suggest
somehow putting in a current date check to permit old behavior as pass
before some future date and make new behavior pass?

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On 2016-10-27T04:06:26+00:00 Bmo-7 wrote:

(In reply to Bill Gianopoulos [:WG9s] from comment #11)
> Can we suggest somehow putting
> in a current date check to permit old behavior as pass before some future
> date and make new behavior pass?

It's not possible to uplift the fix to all releases.
Instead, I think it all depends on how the test case would be updated in order 
to fit the spec change.

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On 2016-11-15T17:08:23+00:00 Ms2ger wrote:

https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/695

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On 2016-11-25T02:16:09+00:00 Onnebula9 wrote:

I can confirm that this applies equally to the current aurora build of
SeaMonkey 2.49a2.

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On 2016-11-25T04:14:54+00:00 Bmo-7 wrote:

Before there is any response or conclusion from WG, do we really want
this behavior change being shipped along the way to release channel
users ? What's the pros to keep this change even though there might be
some webcompat issues hitting us in the future?

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On 2016-12-21T11:42:08+00:00 B-emilio wrote:

Tab seems to agree that this is the way forward to do this[1], and I'm
trying to get the change landed on Blink too.

[1]: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-
drafts/issues/695#issuecomment-263930658

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On 2016-12-22T21:23:19+00:00 Bzbarsky wrote:

For what it's worth, we (and other browsers) used to have our current
behavior until Acid3 was published, iirc.  Then we changed to make acid3
pass in this one weird edge case.

The right way to fix the test is to remove this part of it completely,
imo.

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On 2017-01-18T16:09:13+00:00 Annevk wrote:

As I mentioned in bug 1300374 comment 21, I replied to Ian:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2017Jan/0014.html.

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On 2017-01-20T09:05:51+00:00 B-emilio wrote:

FYI, I landed the equivalent patch on Blink[1], so it shouldn't be
considered a webcompat issue anymore.

[1]: https://codereview.chromium.org/2588643004/

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On 2017-02-01T19:51:35+00:00 Ryanvm wrote:

Sounds like this is wontfix for 52+ then, Boris?

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On 2017-02-01T19:58:16+00:00 Bzbarsky wrote:

Yes, I think so.  We should keep pushing on Ian, but if it's not just us
making the change that makes it much simpler to make the case the test
is broken if he refuses to change it.

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On 2017-02-01T21:06:30+00:00 Ryanvm wrote:

Calling this WONTFIX from a Firefox standpoint and moving the bug over
to Tech Evangelism at this point, then. Thanks!

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On 2017-03-09T21:05:23+00:00 Alice0775-t wrote:

*** Bug 1345994 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2017-05-11T12:26:10+00:00 Kohei-yoshino wrote:

*** Bug 1363980 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2017-07-13T21:59:39+00:00 Vader-24 wrote:

"Calling this WONTFIX from a Firefox standpoint and moving the bug over to TECH 
EVANGELISM at this point, then. Thanks!"
Well, this is embarrassing...

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On 2017-07-14T03:30:23+00:00 Bzbarsky wrote:

What exactly is embarrassing?  We're following the spec.  The test is
wrong per current spec text, but the test author refuses to change it.
Who is supposed to be embarrassed and why?

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On 2017-07-14T09:04:45+00:00 Vader-24 wrote:

Where is bug in the test and where is this specification, that specifies
1 instead 0? If the test is wrond the title shall be "INVALID instead of
tech evangelism. The test 72 is also a bug in test benchmark?

What is embarrassing? Race Hazard in Firefox. Please see topic for test
72 and please multiple run the test. Why the result is 98+(rand()%2)
instead of stable 99 or 98?

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On 2017-07-14T16:05:06+00:00 Bzbarsky wrote:

> Where is bug in the test and where is this specification, that
specifies 1 instead 0?

Did you read this bug report?  That's covered in the links in the first
several comments.

> The test 72 is also a bug in test benchmark?

This bug report is about test 35.  It has nothing to do with test 72.

That said, I just tried in Firefox 54 release and I can't reproduce any
test 72 failures; I get a stable score of 99 over dozens of runs.  If
you can reproduce a problem there, please file a separate bug with steps
to reproduce and cc me.

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On 2017-07-16T19:14:01+00:00 Marius-spix wrote:

How can I find out which test is failing? On my FF 53.0.3, the test
result is 99%, the third bucket is gray. Hovering over the A converts
the cursor to a help cursor, this state keeps permanently if you click
on the A. No dialog appears, however and refreshing the page gives an 1%
score. This is very weird.

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On 2017-07-16T23:22:33+00:00 Bzbarsky wrote:

Please stop asking all possible Acid3 questions in this bug...  But in
general, clicking the A is supposed to show an alert that explains which
tests failed, and does for me on Firefox 53.0.3 with a clean profile.

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On 2017-07-16T23:53:36+00:00 Marius-spix wrote:

Thank you. After resolving 1381336, clicking on the A works for me now,
too.

Failed 1 tests.
Test 26 passed, but took 61ms (less than 30fps)
Test 35 failed: expected '0' but got '1' - root element, with no parent node, 
claims to be a :first-child
Total elapsed time: 0.35s

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On 2017-07-31T08:48:13+00:00 Ms2ger wrote:

Sent another email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-
archive/2017Jul/0002.html

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On 2017-07-31T16:27:03+00:00 Ms2ger wrote:

Apparently the test is no longer being updated:
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2017Jul/0003.html>. Not
sure if there's much point in keeping this bug open.

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On 2017-07-31T16:42:57+00:00 Miket-y wrote:

(In reply to :Ms2ger (⌚ UTC+1/+2) from comment #33)
> Apparently the test is no longer being updated:
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2017Jul/0003.html>. Not
> sure if there's much point in keeping this bug open.

Given that update, let's close. Thanks.

"Acid3, in particular, contains some controversial tests and no longer
reflects the consensus of the Web standards it purports to test,
especially when it comes to issues affecting mobile browsers. The tests
remain available for historical purposes and for use by browser
vendors."

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Title:
  Firefox fails acid3.acidtests.org

Status in Mozilla Firefox:
  Invalid
Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  Compliance test at http://acid3.acidtests.org/ is failing since a few 
releases, now.
  The reported failure says:

  Test 35 failed: expected '0' but got '1' - root element, with no
  parent node, claims to be a :first-child

  Previous versions used to pass 100 tests out of 100.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: firefox 53.0+build6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
  Uname: Linux 4.11.0-041100-lowlatency x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.5
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  enzo       2238 F.... pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20170418123315
  Channel: Unavailable
  CurrentDesktop: KDE
  Date: Thu May 11 08:54:48 2017
  Extensions: extensions.sqlite corrupt or missing
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  IncompatibleExtensions: Unavailable (corrupt or non-existant 
compatibility.ini or extensions.sqlite)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.255.254 dev enp2s0  proto static  metric 100 
   169.254.0.0/16 dev enp2s0  scope link  metric 1000 
   192.168.255.0/24 dev enp2s0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.255.42  
metric 100
  IwConfig:
   lo        no wireless extensions.
   
   enp2s0    no wireless extensions.
  Locales: extensions.sqlite corrupt or missing
  Plugins: Shockwave Flash - /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
  PrefSources: prefs.js
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=53.0/20170418123315 (In use)
  RfKill:
   0: hci0: Bluetooth
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no
  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  Themes: extensions.sqlite corrupt or missing
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  dmi.bios.date: 09/22/2013
  dmi.bios.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.bios.version: L02 v02.01
  dmi.board.asset.tag: CZC3523T17
  dmi.board.name: 18EB
  dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: CZC3523T17
  dmi.chassis.type: 6
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.modalias: 
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  dmi.product.name: HP ProDesk 490 G1 MT
  dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard

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