Hi John, On 22/12/11 01:59, John Lea wrote: > @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing > behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In > both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom > of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in > Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at > the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? >
This issue has been dragging on for so long I've grown tired of it. Have you ever tried using a touchpad to resize a window with a default Ubuntu 11.10 installation on a laptop with a high resolution screen? I've given up on it on Ubuntu 10.04 and have gotten used to Alt - Right Click to resize windows until I have time to write a program that can read my mind as I don't think this will ever be fixed on Ubuntu 10.04. I can't use Ubuntu 11.10 as yet as Unity is buggy and even if it would not be buggy it still is a much lesser fit to my needs than Gnome 2. I might be forced to stay with Ubuntu 10.04 for a few more years as I think Unity need a lot more work before it's usable for anything more than occasional desktop work. Fortunately support for 10.04 has been extended - I assume for obvious reasons? The point many people are trying to make is that resizing windows needs to be intuitive. Dare I say that something that is intuitive should no more depend on the selected theme as it would on the selected background image? It has been intuitive on Windows since 3 (can't remember Windows <3 sorry :-P), as well as on any incarnation of Mac OS but somehow we seem to continue to have to debate and explain something that I would consider really really obvious. Perhaps the developers should simply use a laptop with a touchpad and high resolution screen and see if they can resize windows without inflicting RSI on themselves. If they can't, it's not fixed, no matter what technical arguments are put forward. regards, Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: ************* >>>> No more comments needed <<<< This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. ************* *************Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. ************* Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk ************* Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: <distance name="left_width" value="3"/> <distance name="right_width" value="3"/> <distance name="bottom_height" value="3"/> ************ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of "misses" when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an "invisible" region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System > Preferences > Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
