Ralph Goers wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:

Borland hasn't trademarked "silk" but only some variants of it. See http://tinyurl.com/5bkw9d

"Silk" was trademarked by a company called mentis: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=pgshps.20.117

The name that we would use is "Cocoon Silk". So I tend to think that it isn't a problem.

WDOT?

Trademark or not, when people in software talk about Silk these products are what they mean. Using a name that is already highly branded would be a mistake. Maybe most of you are too young to get this but what would you think of a project named Apache SideKick? If it wasn't a Personal Information Manager people would be confused. If it was people would be even more confused. (If you don't know what SideKick was see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SideKick).

The point is, people would expect Cocoon Silk to be some sort of performance measurement tool, probably with the expectation that it hooks into Silk Test or Silk Performer somehow. (Which actually isn't a bad idea).

I don't know neither SideKick nor Borland's Silk. I can't say if people immediately start to think of test tools when they hear the world silk somehow related to software. Silk is also used over 700! times in US trademarks only so people probably have many different first ideas.

IIUC Borland didn't care themselves that another company has already registered Silk and if other companies like Microsoft used Avalon for software years after the Apache Avalon project was started. I can't believe that they didn't know before ;-)

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