Hallo @all, zu Eurer Kenntnis diese Nachricht, die gestern vom Co-Lead der französischen Communiy an die releases Liste ging und die meines Erachtens sehr gut die bisher geäußerten Bedenken und Probleme zusammenfasst sowie die heute erfolgte Antwort von Stefan Taxhet.
Und um die Frage "warum äußert sich der französische Lead und die deutschen Co-Leads nicht?" vorweg zu nehmen... Jean-Baptiste gibt hier das Stimmungsbild der in der französischen Community gelaufenen Diskussion wieder, die bereits einige Zeit lief. Unsere Diskussion hat erst begonnen und ich werde natürlich zu gegebener Zeit ebenfalls ein entsprechendes Statement verfassen. Ich würde jedoch gern noch das Ergebnis des letzten release meetings abwarten und mir noch einmal die gesamte Diskussion auf [email protected] durchlesen. Wenn ich mir dort allerdings die letzte Nachricht http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=branding&msgNo=110 von Rosana durchlese scheint es eher unwahrscheinlich, dass zur 3.2.1 noch etwas an den gemachten Änderungen rückgängig gemacht oder modifiziert wird :-( Gruß Marko -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Taxhet <[email protected]> Hi, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > As you perhaps know already, there is some effervescence in the > francophone NLC about the new version 3.2.1. > The problem is about the replacement of the splash-screen chosen by the > Community, the look and the usability of the new StartCenter, and the > method to do the changes. > > There is two kinds of problem : > > - *theses changes break our processes, mainly our QA process*. Indeed > OOo 3.2.1 is a bugfix and these changes do not fix any bug, so they have > nothing to do in a bugfix. Confidence in the quality assurance rests, to > a large extent, on the absolute respect of the procedures. The break of > our processes is then a major fail and a very bad message sent to the > Community. I understand the concerns you raise and we agree that the changes go beyond a regular micro release. But as mentioned earlier http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=releases&msgNo=15442 please understand that this first release after the acquisition of Sun is necessary and different from other micro releases. > - *the new StartCenter is mainly unusable* due to the too small > difference between ODF icons, the four small icons seem which seem > grayed, "open file" and "template" actions which have the same icon (a > closed folder !). Most of those to whom I showed the new StartCenter > have said that it is a regression. If we consider the StarCenter as the > gateway to OpenOffice.org, so it does not encourage the user to enter. > > I do not like to write that but, in its current state, I do not know how > I could validate a francophone version of OOo 3.2.1. :-( I'm confident that problems with the the StartCenter will be picked up and seriously evaluated. Nobody can promise that all problems will get a 3.2.1 target. But you will have seen that issues in this area have been raised here and are going to be tackled for 3.2.1. Thanks for raising your most important concerns. From my personal point of view the duplicate use of an icon for two functions in the StartCenter is certainly worth an issue. Wrt to the splash screen I would like to repeat http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=65559 that we count on an effort run by the OOo project. But this may take a while and should not be considered a stumbling block for 3.2.1. > If we do not want to discourage the Community it is essential that the > main role of the Community shouldn't be only to accept and promote the > decisions taken by Hambourg. Remember, without its Community, > OpenOffice.org would not have a market share of ~20% in Europe. > So we should work *together* to do a better version 3.2.1. We all, including the community members located in Hamburg, value the contributions in the different areas of the OpenOffice.org project. This holds true for the role the NLC projects take as well as activities driven by people from Hamburg, Auckland, Beijing and Paris. We are well aware that some steps so far were not satisfactory wrt to collaboration and we have to work on a good way to collaborate in the branding initiative. But I see the first signs of progress at [email protected] Give it a chance without the pressure to be a blocker for a release. Thanks Stefan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
