Hi Chistopher,

first point, we don't have a RM per se. The one pushing the release is responsible for it, but that can be anyone. But that's not important.

Personally, when I push a release and call for a vote, I wait until we have enough binding +1 vote to close the vote (and of course I wait for the 3 days period to end). Then in my vote closing mail, I list the votes, separating the binding votes and the non-binding votes.

Then if the number of binding votes is >= 3, I call it a release.

But I usually count me as a binding vote explicitely on the closing mail, like:

"Hi!

I therefore close this vote, completed with 3 bidning +1:
- Colm
- Shawn
- and me.
"

(The latest Apache DS release).

I consider the 'and me' as an explicit vote, even if I haven't sent a "+1" mail aside.

Anyway, I don't think we have any rule that implies we *must* cast an explicit vote as a separate mail as a reponse to the calling mail, as soon as we *know* who voted.

What is important is to know who are the 3 (or more) binding votes, not that we have one mail par vote, IMHO.

I would never send a closing vote mail without listing the people who voted the release, that would defeat the purpose of the ASF rule of 3+ binding votes for a release.

On 14/01/2024 14:51, Christofer Dutz wrote:
Hi all,

as part of my reviews of your board report in preparation of the upcoming board 
meeting, I usually also have a look at the processes in the projects. I did 
notice here that you seem to be voting as if the VOTE email itself counts as an 
implicit +1 vote. However this is not the case. We don't have such a thing as 
an implicit vote.

I myself have probably voted on more of my own PRs with -1 than I have on 
others.

So could you please do one of the two:
- Explicitly have the RM cast a vote (the option I would prefer to see)
- Add an explicit vote to the original VOTE email (by adding something like: "This 
also counts as my +1" to the email)

Thanks,
      Chris

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