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> From: Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula <[email protected]>
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> Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [PATCH 1/2] doc: add enqueue depth for new event type

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> > >> If the underlying hardware has some limitations,
> > >> why not let the driver loop until back pressure occurs? Then you can
> >
> > You didn't answer this question. Why not let the driver loop, until you
> > for some reason or the other can't accept more events?
> 
> CNXK event driver cannot accept forwarding(enq) more than one event that has
> been dequeued. Enqueueing more than one event for forwarding/releasing
> is a violation from HW perspective, this is currently announced by BURST 
> capability.
> But It can enqueue a burst if new events.

Can't the driver just backpressure NEW events? that's what the event/sw driver
does in order to limit "new" inflight events. App attempts to enq FWD/REL, no 
problem. App enqueues burst of NEW (and there's only N spaces) then the
first N events pass, and the rest are returned to the application.

> If you see the current example implementation we pick the worker based on
> BURST capability for optimizing the enqueue/dequeue by providing a hint
> to the driver layer.

Please provide a link to the code? Others are not familiar with the CNXK driver,
or the sample code you're referring to...


> Although, we could live with aggregating the events at driver layer based on
> queue. We would still require announce burst capability for new events i.e.
> changes to the info structure.

As per above, I still don't see a reason why this HW optimization/limitation
needs to be pushed to the application layer. Why can the driver not handle
things by allowing/backpressure to the events it can/can't handle?


In this email thread[1] you've suggested reworking the rx_burst API with a
flag to indicate "same destination". This still pushes the problem to the 
application,
and exposes more HW/PMD specific options. This impl is *slightly* better 
because it
wont' require new APIs for each mode, but also *breaks all existing apps*!?

I'm just not understanding why the application needs to change, and why it
cannot be optimized/handled in the driver layer.

[1] http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2022-July/246717.html

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